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JesusFan


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Thougfht Superman was chosen by the ring first?


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Knight


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In Post Crisis, Clark was chosen by the ring first. But Abin Sur did not want a Kryptonian to have the ring, he wanted a human. So, the ring went out again and snagged Hal. In modern times, however, we don't know if this happened or not. It has neither been confirmed nor denied. So, we don't know. Since the modern Superman and Hal has kept most of their Post Crisis history, it's safe to assume this did happen. But again, we don't know for absolute certainty.

Side Note: Back in the late 80's, early 90's, Hal was dying and a number of successors were chosen to replace him. If I remember correctly, I think John Stewart and Guy were among that number (this was before either of them became GL's). But Clark Kent was also among that number as a potential replacement as well. So, that's twice that Clark could have potentially become a Green Lantern. Hal would dismiss the potential replacements and willed himself to stay alive. He was successful.

Side Note 2: Back when Superman lost his powers and the comics jumped to one year later, Hal offered Clark a power ring. Kent took it, used it to float up in the air but then returned it, saying he didn't wish to come out of retirement. So, once again, Superman could have become a GL but this time he outright refused. Geoff Johns wrote this story and I really wish he had explored Superman, who had no powers at that time, with a power ring. It would have been a neat story where Superman used the power ring to fight crime and what he could do with it. We also know it would have been temporary as Superman's powers would have returned and Clark would return the ring to Hal. But no, Johns didn't explore this. Talk about a missed opportunity. A huge one.





It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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Iron Man Unit 007


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The event was in action comics weekly and occurred after the Malvolio encounter that changed hal's ring.

John Stewart as I recall was reactivated by Hal in GL quarterly and was off earth at the time

Clark was chosen by Abin but after seeing he was Kryptonian disqualified him as regulations state a native to the sector must be chosen. Clark gave first aid and abin wiped his memory and sent him back.

Than came the choice of Hal or Guy but Hal was closer.

Hal is shot and dying his ring scanned and pulled several candidates including Clark Kent, Guy who was already a GL and not present at Sinestro being executed and blowing up the CPB, Deadman, Nightwing and some civilians were chosen. All but Clark and Deadman were time frozen and Hal was trying to choose while Clark and Deadman argued the pros and cons of living and dying.

Then a pre-recorded message of abin came from the ring, which could not have happened as this was Malvolio's ring. It urged Hal to remember his will power, that abin died from lack of will and that the candidates had lesser will then Hal.

Hal revives himself and sends the candidates back and defeats the corrupt soldiers that shot him.

After this the comic becomes action comics again for Superman only, GL vol three is launched, Hal would have white hair at the launch and would be slowly poisoned by Parralax.

I have often suspected this incident was one of parallax's attacks on Hal to slowly poisoned bis mind


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JesusFan


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There was the What If story where Clark was a GL and returned to a destroyed earth I think, and he did show force of will by commanding the ring to jump of a GLand come to Him!


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JesusFan


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And then in Emperor Joker, DC showed to us that Supes had greater willpower than with Bruce or Hal!


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Isosceles


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maybe it was Armageddon 2000, I can't remember, but in it he pulls guys ring off his finger using pure will power, but he did not return to earth...he never left. He became President.

Is that what you were referring too?



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Iron Man Unit 007


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Yes and in another totally unrelated story to the one that i provided data for Teddy Ruxpin tells you about an old treasure map.....


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Iron Man Unit 007


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Nope the story he refers to was in the last issue of action comics weekly where GL stories occurred after the GL book ended after Sinestro was killed and merged with the central battery on OA


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Isosceles


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Iron Man Unit 007


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http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Action_Comics_Vol_1_642

It was after this the GL book was relaunched and slowly started to restore the GLC after the CPB nearly imploded at the end of the last series.

Then it all ended with Emerald Twilight and Hal being turned into a villain.

However the story in Action Comics 642 really feels like it was part of the Sinestro/Parallax attacks on Hal's psyche that Sinestro mentioned years later in GL Rebirth.

Hal was badly distracted from previous attacks, his will was weakened, he was indeed dying but Sinestro/Parallax made sure Hal would rally to live by faking the message from Abin Sur from the ring as that was NOT supposed to be the ring Abin gave Hal, it was Malvolio's ring that Hal would use until he wrecked the CPB in Emerald Twilight.

Of course the whole Malvolio encounter could also be a Parallax attack on Hal's mind, especially since editorial decided to not use that character again, and Malvolio was trying to make Hal his pawn to destroy the Guardians and GLC....


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