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Nose Norton


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80 years old.

Guess that shows how old we're getting as I've always thought of him as the younger generation that took over after Stan Lee.

His biggest impact on comics for me will always be the Vision.  I had the Marvel Super Action reprint of Avengers 57 since childhood.  I love that ish.


I also really liked Avengers Annual 23 and Thor Annual 19, a Thomas 2-parter featuring Thor, Loki and Pluto.

What are your Roy Thomas classics or forgotten favorites?



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His Kree-Skrull War in the Avengers was a favorite of mine. He had a hand in launching "The Defenders" which is one of my favorite "non-teams" in history, and (if memory serves) he launched the "What if" series too! I also enjoyed his stories in the Invaders and the All-Star Squadron. He had a knack for writing characters with a Golden Age feel, but his stories were also a bit quirky and off beat (which I love). How's that for a short list? 

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I did see some old 70s or 80s interview with Stan and Roy, and Stan was talking about how Roy was the young blood.

He had a cameo in Netflix's Daredevil, nice to see they are branching out the Stan Lee cameo tradition to other creators. Jim Starlin was in Avengers Endgame, as well. We got Mr. Ditkovich in Raimi's Spider-Man, too bad we didn't get a Ditko cameo.

I missed Roy's Marvel years, I know it's heresy. He had a big run on Conan and was basically credited with creating Red Sonja, right?

I'm more familiar with his All-Star Squadron/Infinity Inc stuff. Sometimes it seemed he was more interested in keeping all the Earth-2 continuity indexed and updated than just telling a story. But I enjoyed it.



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Good one. I always think of Roy with his 70s hairstyle.

My favourite stuff from Roy was Savage Sword of Conan. It really suited his overly verbose, descriptive skills with less emphasis on dialogue (which never struck me as one of his strengths). Most importantly, he had a great love for the character and knew when to use the original REH prose to build atmosphere. Roy basically built the sword and sorcerey comic genre.
Roy loved Conan so much that he wrote a "what if" where Conan slept with Roy's wife. That's dedication.

Among Conan fans, Roy is pretty much the only writer who "got" the source material.

His other stuff was hit or miss for me, like his avengers which could be great at times. Roy always struck me as more of an editor or idea man, who had a great love of continuity and comics history.



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I always appreciated Roy the Boy's love for the Golden Age characters, and, if that meant I read a lot of his World War II stories because of it, then so be it. I never much enjoyed war comics on their own, but throw some superheroes or supernatural threats of time-travel into the fray, and I'm joyfully on board for the ride.


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I'm a fan of the Kree-Skrull War, too, but I think the forming of the Defenders was a top idea.  It worked so well for the heroes involved and built some great continuity.
Thomas did write the first two issues of What If...?  What If Spider-Man Had Joined The Fantastic Four was one of the first back issues I ever tracked down.  

Great list!



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Nose Norton


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I do like those movie cameos that go beyond Stan Lee, too. Thomas certainly deserves the recognition.

I'm no Robert E. Howard expert, but I believe he created Red Sonja, although Thomas developed the Marvel character that she became.
When my wife was pregnant with my son, I started reading Marvel from FF 1. Now he's 13 and I'm in the middle of 1997. However, for some reason, I decided not to read Sgt Fury and Conan. I've got to go back and read them some time.

I never read Thomas' DC work but I know he was a big fan of Golden Age comics. I used to think of him as fandom's most successful writer (Stan kind of promoted him as that in letters pages) but I think he is more than that. A fan, to be sure, but also a great comic book writer. Criticisms of him are justified but he was the perfect guy for that time and place to keep the Marvel Age going.


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Nose Norton


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    Good one. I always think of Roy with his 70s hairstyle.

Same here.  I think he still has that hairdo.




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    My favourite stuff from Roy was Savage Sword of Conan. It really suited his overly verbose, descriptive skills with less emphasis on dialogue (which never struck me as one of his strengths). Most importantly, he had a great love for the character and knew when to use the original REH prose to build atmosphere. Roy basically built the sword and sorcerey comic genre.
Roy loved Conan so much that he wrote a "what if" where Conan slept with Roy's wife. That's dedication.

I'll say!  That's kind of like your wife writing a story where you get to sleep with Marilyn Monroe!


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    Among Conan fans, Roy is pretty much the only writer who "got" the source material.

Thomas' love of the work definitely helped him overcome his shortcomings.  I like that he brought Howard and Lovecraft into the Marvel Universe, even though I'm really not a fan of their works.  I just think it's neat.  He's like one of us who made it.  


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    His other stuff was hit or miss for me, like his avengers which could be great at times. Roy always struck me as more of an editor or idea man, who had a great love of continuity and comics history.

If you took away the "continuity" part, you could be talking about Stan.  I always felt his dialogue tried to emulate Stan, which I'm sure was more of a choice by Thomas than a mandate by Lee, but I'm sure Stan didn't mind.




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Nose Norton


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The Invaders is kind of like a "Golden Age" Defenders: a group of heroes who only came together because of the War. Baron Blood, Union Jack, Master Man and U-Man are great characters in my book


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    Thomas' love of the work definitely helped him overcome his shortcomings.  I like that he brought Howard and Lovecraft into the Marvel Universe, even though I'm really not a fan of their works.  I just think it's neat.  He's like one of us who made it.

He also brought Hugo Danner, Arthur Conan Doyle's Lost World and Dr. Rotawang from Fritz Lang's Metropolis into DC. I think all in Infinity Inc.


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Jeff m.


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I"ll chime in on the "Conan fan" thing. When reading Conan stories, only the original Robert E. Howard stuff and Roy's ring true for me on the characters. Even the L. Sprague DeCamp and Lin Carter "Adaptations" of Howard's work are a hair off.

I think its because everyone else tries to make Conan deeper or more complex than he is.

Coupled with the Buscema art, it was perfection for the character.

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