This is was a well written/acted Savage Hulk. It was great seeing him have this many lines...BUT this is The Hulk that should have been this way from the beginning. He should have progressed to a Gravage Hulk over the past 2 yrs.

The way this Hulk fights in the arena is wrong given his huge reach/length advantage. Thor really dominated the fight and I cant help but think a Gravage version would have been more competitive. Even before Thor taps into his godhood mode he was wrecking him when he wanted to.

Btw, this film has an internal logic flaw in Thor's power level. He's repeatedly taken down and/or out by an uber taser even when he's eminating lightning outta his body he's dropped before his likely 3rd shot ends Hulk.

I am now fearing the hurting/beating Thanos is bout to lay down on this Hulk in Avengers:IW. Maybe by the 4th flick Hulk can have his version of Worldbreaker mode.

Seeing Thor get Korg/Miek friendships too is another downer. I dunno... feel bad Hulk won't ever get a proper Planet Hulk movie and that this wasted his best comics story ever. Was a great Thor movie tho.

Agreed with all of your comments (except the Hulk would have got up from the 3rd shot (I hope) and I would love to see Worldbreaker Hulk by Avengers 4.

Actually, thought the movie showed Greenskin much stronger and beating doiwn Thor, and only was getting wiped when Thor accessed his godforce enregy thing!

Wow. Which movie was this? I'd like to see it.

It sure wasn't Thor Ragnarok.

The obedience disk thing seemed to be more tuned in than just electricity but that is what we heard.

Yawn. Go back to your Thor board.

Why because you can't handle the truth?

Because trolls are not welcome. Go back to your hole.

Ain't trollin' if it's da truth.

Hulk fans, suck it up. The entire world now knows what happens when Hulk fights a hammerless Thor. Let me give you a hint---

(crowd chants) Thunder... Thunder... Thunder...

Indeed. I'm happy it's on the big screen for everyone to see.

I'm happy too but not for the same reasons. Both sets of fans got great things. Hulk was stronger and Thor was the superrior fighter and showed his godforce. And while the fight was leaning Thor when the grandmaster intervened, it was a momment in time and overall the outcome was as ambigous as so many comic issues.

I don’t quite see it that way. Nothing at all indicated Hulk was stronger. However toward the end of the fight, it’s very clear Thor was in control.

Thor rushing at him and jumping in an two handed overhand hammer swing and the Hulk just catching it in one hand and stopping him dead in his tracks? Thor's expression when it happened? The pummeling he took out of that sparked the Odin vision for him to tap into his godforce?

The blow Thor landed against the Hulk early in the fight with the Hulk's hammer was strength, but it was as much suprise and timing and using the Hulk's momentum who was charging him.

In the exchange of blows, Hulk was knocking Thor great distances acrooss the ring he landed, where Thor was hurting the Hulk with head, gut, and knee shots, etc. but not nearly with the same force. In fact, the Hulk rarely landed a shot because of Thor's superior speed, reflexes, and skill.

But that's okay, brute strength is the Hulk's thing. It's what he is about and Thor is god of battle and storms and both their attributes showed.

IMHO, it still wasn't enough to overcome Thor's strength, speed, and battle skills along with his godforce and the fight had swung to Thor. However, I think the fight would have continued on and the Hulk would have really started to rage and his dynamic strength would counter and who knows how it would have ended. Which is about what happens in every comic encounter they have.

Its subtle at best. I mean, Hulk's best feat is still the punch on the Leviathan and that was immediately after transforming. I think in the Norton film you see it during the fight with The Abomination as he's pushing Emil back. Ang Lee version showed it with growth change. A visual cue maybe in the eyes/veins might be enough. Or have a big enough dramatic differences in feats.

Your take is very good and quite accurate, as their fight indeed highlighted to us that the bHulk is still stronger, and that he would win this if Thor just kept it to a slugfest, but that when Thor channels His OdinForce power, he would wipe out the Hulk.

Hulk is stronger, anbd Tior is mor epowerful when he accesses His full power limits.

The Hulk would have beat down Thor weith brute strenght, but when Thor accessed and used His odin Force power, match over!

Thor was shbown being handles by the Hulk as Hulk smashed Loki before, and only when Thor called upon the Odin Force did he gain upper hand!

The Hulk would have eventually turned into the worldbreaker mode and Salazar would have been doomed.

Which is more powerful though? WB or Odin Forced Thor?

He did catch the hammer in the fight with Thor. And the fight with Hulkbuster Hulk was really never in trouble during that fight. At least IMO.

Mostly Hulk seems to be just above most threats. To be fair, not much has been shown in the movies to even hurt the guy that much. He was probably hurt more in the Thor movie than any point to now. His skin was pierced by Fenrir and Thor was able to hurt him. Before that maybe the chitari in mass hurt him?

Seems to me the dynamic strength aspect plays up better if he had his own movies. On his own he is usually just shown as overwhelming force personified.

Speaking of reminders..

"You are about to meet the Grandmaster prepare yourself.."

"AAHH! AAAH! (terror)" - Thor afraid of meeting Jeff Goldblum

And we have confirmation that Asgardians are vulnerable to bullets thanks to Skurge. No wonder Thor had to dodge them in Avengers. He even took himself out with a bouncy red ball -- what a genius! Durable as a wet paper towel

Hookayyy, once again, catching the hammer is not proof of superior strength, especially since Thor was holding back most of that fight (“don’t worry banner, I’ll get you out”). And Hulk was most definitely reeling from Thor’s non-lightning blows. If anything, the argument could be made of Thor being stronger since Hulk was reeling more than Thor was during that fight.

Sigh, there’s no such thing as Worldbreak Hulk in mcu.

Face it, Thor dominated the entire fight before even accessing his divine power. Thor’s too great a warrior for the Hulk to handle.

Thor had no Odin Force in the movie. While Hulk did some beating up on Thor during the fight, most of it was due to Thor holding back and giving the Hulk opportunities to strike while Thor was unwilling to strike back. When the Hulk did pound on Thor, Thor recovered pretty quickly, more quickly than the Hulk was recovering from Thor's blows.

Actually right before the attempted shot at the Hulk, Thor says to himself, "All right, screw it!" And then his offensive was stopped in it's track by one hand and Hulk who was on his knees. Thor had a running start and a leap as he swing the blow overhead and two handed. The look on Thor's face said it all.

Not holding back and the Hulk wasn't reeling as much from the force of the blows but the frequency and placement. Where the couple times the Hulk connected, he launched Thor across the Arena.

I've seen it four times and each time, it's more apparent the movie played to their individual strengths. In the case of the Hulk it was brute strength and that his durability allowed him to take the combo of all of Thor's abilities, even his shots that were powered up with his god power.

Now, if you were to argue Thor's blitz of all his powers were overcoming the Hulk's formidable strength, I would agree. Even then the outcome wasn't clear even though Thor was in the advantage at the end.

I would agree with you, Thor was the better warrior and he was to a degree dominating like Ali, in Ali vs Foreman. However like Foreman when the Hulk got a hold of Thor it was crushing like Foreman punches.

Hulk's strength has shown to by dynamic in the MCU. The Hulkbuster/Hulk fight in AoU showed it and there were some moments in this movie. Unless, there was a stand alone film, there isn't much opportunity for that to be explored.

This was never once stated or implied in the movie. Thor did access his own ability, that he was channeling through Mjolnir, but it had nothing at all to do with Odin.

Thor was doing fine against Hulk with brute strength. Both hurting Hulk and walking off his blows. Thor was getting smashed pretty well. I am not sure that Thor suddenly heals with the lightening stuff. It did not help his eye.

Yeah, and he ALSO said: "Don't worry Banner, I'll get you out."

Thor was STILL concerned for Hulk/Banner welfare, whereas the Hulk was going all-out from the beginning. Major difference. And yes, Thor was surprised when Hulk caught his hammer. But that is NOT proof of Hulk being stronger, just a good example on how strong he is, so stop using that example.




Because Thor WAS HOLDING BACK!!! What part of "holding back" do you not get??? And Hulk only launched Thor ONCE without the use of weapons.




Depends on your definition of "allowed him to take". Damn near every blow Thor struck on the Hulk, he was shaken up.




Wasn't clear????

Let's see: the pro-Hulk crowd started cheering for Thor, The Hulk STOOD THERE unmoving while Thor was approaching, and the Grandmaster himself (the Hulk's benefactor) activated the disc before Thor reached the Hulk.

And you say the outcome wasn't clear????? *whistles*

DO

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AGREE!!!!!

Nothing, NOTHING Hulk did showed any type of strength superiority.

Unfortunately for Foreman, he didnt have a Thunderclap nor a shockwave in his repertoire. The World War Hulk was able to knock out the Red Hulk with a simple Thunderclap.

Whistling....wow, I can do that too.

Yep, it wasn't clear. Surtur tossing Hulk away didn't have any noticeable lasting effect and the Hulk was ready to go again.

The Hulk twice got up from godblasts. He was ready to go again against Thor and was balling his fist up for the next exchange. That moment was robbed by the Grandmaster but yes the fight looked like to continue.

Thor clearly had taken the advantage at that moment the fight stopped but it had already shifted between the two already.