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Nathan Summers


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Those of you who followed Michelinie and Layton's Iron Man run might recall that they intended to reveal Rae LaCoste, the hairdresser who became Tony's girlfriend during their second run, as the ex-wife of Scott Lang, and the new Madame Masque (responsible for killing Whitney in Iron Man #238).

The interesting implication of this would be that she abandoned their daughter Cassie when Scott was sent to prison for his earlier burglary efforts. That is, why would a mother abandon her daughter when she had no other primary caregiver to look after her, what with Scott being incarcerated?

Basing Rae's decision purely on self-interest doesn't seem very interesting, so there's likely an extreme reason for her doing that, maybe to protect Cassie from harm. If she had been Masque since Iron Man #245, where did she learn the skills to carry out Whitney Frost's murder so easily? So had she had criminal associations before marrying Scott, and did she escape them, then discovered they were getting closer to tracking her down and this is why she bailed, before they discovered she had a child?

Or did she "marry" Scott to secure his skills for them? Was it the Maggia, Hydra, A.I.M. or someone else?





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Grey Gargoyle


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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    Quote:
    Those of you who followed Michelinie and Layton's Iron Man run might recall that they intended to reveal Rae LaCoste, the hairdresser who became Tony's girlfriend during their second run, as the ex-wife of Scott Lang, and the new Madame Masque (responsible for killing Whitney in Iron Man #238).


Yes, the original plan was concluded in out-of-continuity Iron Man #258.1 - #258.3.

It confirms that Rae was supposed to be the new Madame Masque.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Iron_Man_Vol_1_258.2
https://eruthros.dreamwidth.org/336506.html
http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/iron_man_254.shtml




    Quote:
    The interesting implication of this would be that she abandoned their daughter Cassie when Scott was sent to prison for his earlier burglary efforts. That is, why would a mother abandon her daughter when she had no other primary caregiver to look after her, what with Scott being incarcerated?

    Basing Rae's decision purely on self-interest doesn't seem very interesting, so there's likely an extreme reason for her doing that, maybe to protect Cassie from harm. If she had been Masque since Iron Man #245, where did she learn the skills to carry out Whitney Frost's murder so easily? So had she had criminal associations before marrying Scott, and did she escape them, then discovered they were getting closer to tracking her down and this is why she bailed, before they discovered she had a child?

    Or did she "marry" Scott to secure his skills for them? Was it the Maggia, Hydra, A.I.M. or someone else?


https://www.cbr.com/avenger-lmost-married-madame-masque/

Unfortunately, we are talking about David Michelinie.
He was one of the most popular Marvel writers of the 1980s but he also had the tendency to make characters go into one direction just to see what could happen along the ride.

For example, he created Eddie Brock out of the blue just to give Venom an host and then connected this new character to the Sin-Eater's plot, even though we, the readers, had never heard about Brock before.

He revealed that Peter Parker's parents were not dead after all but that they had spent all these years in a Russian gulag. They were actually LMDs but, maybe, David Michelinie had another plan in mind that we will never know.
https://superiorspidertalk.com/mysterious-ways-how-did-peters-parents-return-from-the-dead/
https://www.cbr.com/remember-to-forget-that-time-spider-mans-parents-turned-out-to-be-robots/
https://www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-383/




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Reverend Meteor


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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    Quote:
    The interesting implication of this would be that she abandoned their daughter Cassie when Scott was sent to prison for his earlier burglary efforts. That is, why would a mother abandon her daughter when she had no other primary caregiver to look after her, what with Scott being incarcerated?


Cassie was being raised by Scott's sister Ruth and Ruth's husband Carl while Scott was in prison. Which tells me Cassie's mother was almost certainly already out of their lives at that point.

Funny enough I think Cassie's mom being Rae the super villain is much better than Cassie's mom being Peggy the deadbeat who let her sister-in-law raise her child.


    Quote:
    Basing Rae's decision purely on self-interest doesn't seem very interesting, so there's likely an extreme reason for her doing that, maybe to protect Cassie from harm. If she had been Masque since Iron Man #245, where did she learn the skills to carry out Whitney Frost's murder so easily? So had she had criminal associations before marrying Scott, and did she escape them, then discovered they were getting closer to tracking her down and this is why she bailed, before they discovered she had a child?


I kind of like the she abandoned Cassie out of self interest angle myself. It makes Scott out to be an even better dad IMO. Before Peggy was really introduced as a character the context clues kinda pointed to her just being the worst. Why would a mother with a sick child dump the child to live with an aunt after the father was sent to prison? I was disappointed Peggy wasn't way worse. As it is she's just a shrill mom who always want to lay guilt trips on Scott. But she's a crap parent in my book for leaving an ill Cassie with Ruth while Scott was in jail.


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    Or did she "marry" Scott to secure his skills for them? Was it the Maggia, Hydra, A.I.M. or someone else?


I wouldn't like that sort of retcon. I'm fine with Rae being the mom and being a super villain. But I don't want her to be behind Scott becoming Ant-Man. Best to just let that be coincidence IMO.





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