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Tony Wolf




.... where the heck does Trident/Karate Kid's 'high Iron Fist collar come from all of a sudden?' He's on the medical bed in his Trident costume (ALL Trident costume with no collar), then suddenly several pages later, he's sporting the big yellow collar and his Karate Kid costume is seen under his Trident costume.

Not sure about this "Trident Guild" idea.... seems odd. I like the idea of the old pre-Mark Waid Legionnaires coming back somehow, and I enjoyed Meltzer playing up the fact that both the JSA and JLA are now led by women (Black Canary and Power Girl).

Meltzer's run has often felt stilted somehow, and this was still the case with this issue, at least for me. But, I am curious to see where he's going with it and will continue to pick up the book.

The guest artist, Shane Davis, did a really great job on the issue, I thought.


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Scott




> The guest artist, Shane Davis, did a really great job on the issue, I thought.

Guest artist? DC did warn us about that.

Scott


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Tony Wolf




I wasn't complaining about his 'guest' status or implying DC didn't make it clear in the solicits, by the way, just to be clear. Just praising the guy's work. \:\)

Tony

> > The guest artist, Shane Davis, did a really great job on the issue, I thought.
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> Guest artist? DC did warn us about that.
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> Scott


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Scott




The spoiler that you revealed was about Trident. The guest artist isn't a spoiler. I put the spoiler tag on your post for you.

Scott


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Tony Wolf




No problem, Scott - I understood that you meant that the spoiler was about Trident, but I realize my post wasn't really clear as to my having understood that fact. *lol*



Ah, the clarity or lack thereof of email and message boards! \:\) I'll be more clear in the future (and make sure about the spoilers).



Cheers!



Tony



> The spoiler that you revealed was about Trident. The guest artist isn't a spoiler. I put the spoiler tag on your post for you.

>

> Scott


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Panthera




>> Not sure about this "Trident Guild" idea.... seems odd. I like the idea of the old pre-Mark Waid Legionnaires coming back somehow, and I enjoyed Meltzer playing up the fact that both the JSA and JLA are now led by women (Black Canary and Power Girl).
>

Yes, let's hope neither suffers from 'woman in the refrigerator' syndrome. *rhe*

But I thought it was off to a nice start. Do we know who the other Legionnaires are (aside from Dream Girl)? Personally, I want to see and/or Nightshade, Bouncing Boy, Shrinking Violet, Wildfire, White Witch, Timber Wolf, Phantom Girl....and whose the one that used to be able to split into three, and then two...?


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Seyg-El




> >> Not sure about this "Trident Guild" idea.... seems odd. I like the idea of the old pre-Mark Waid Legionnaires coming back somehow, and I enjoyed Meltzer playing up the fact that both the JSA and JLA are now led by women (Black Canary and Power Girl).
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> Yes, let's hope neither suffers from 'woman in the refrigerator' syndrome. *rhe*
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> But I thought it was off to a nice start. Do we know who the other Legionnaires are (aside from Dream Girl)? Personally, I want to see and/or Nightshade, Bouncing Boy, Shrinking Violet, Wildfire, White Witch, Timber Wolf, Phantom Girl....and whose the one that used to be able to split into three, and then two...?

You're thinking of Triplicate Girl, who later became Duo Damsel...


I think, due to the title of the story, that Lightning Lad will be involved...


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Scott




Please mark spoilers correctly. If you aren't spoiling anything, remove the "spoilers" from the subject line.

> Do we know who the other Legionnaires are (aside from Dream Girl)?

As you mentioned, Dream Girl. Starboy (now man) is in JSA. Dawnstar had a brief cameo in JSA #1. And, of course, Karate Kid in JLA #8.

Scott


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Scott




Please mark spoilers correctly. If you aren't spoiling anything, remove the "spoilers" from the subject line.

Scott


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Orion Prime




> .... where the heck does Trident/Karate Kid's 'high Iron Fist collar come from all of a sudden?' He's on the medical bed in his Trident costume (ALL Trident costume with no collar), then suddenly several pages later, he's sporting the big yellow collar and his Karate Kid costume is seen under his Trident costume.
>
> Not sure about this "Trident Guild" idea.... seems odd. I like the idea of the old pre-Mark Waid Legionnaires coming back somehow, and I enjoyed Meltzer playing up the fact that both the JSA and JLA are now led by women (Black Canary and Power Girl).
>
> Meltzer's run has often felt stilted somehow, and this was still the case with this issue, at least for me. But, I am curious to see where he's going with it and will continue to pick up the book.
>
> The guest artist, Shane Davis, did a really great job on the issue, I thought.

I'm thinking the Legion members are;
Starman
Dream Girl
Karate Kid
Lightning Lad
Dawnstar
Wildfire
Ultraboy

Ultraboy is just a wild guess and wishful thinking.

Suffice to say, it looks to be an interesting story. It is great to see the original legion members present!


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SkyTrick




> .... where the heck does Trident/Karate Kid's 'high Iron Fist collar come from all of a sudden?' He's on the medical bed in his Trident costume (ALL Trident costume with no collar), then suddenly several pages later, he's sporting the big yellow collar and his Karate Kid costume is seen under his Trident costume.

It starts to appear while fighting Batman... looks like it's under his Trident costume...

>
> Not sure about this "Trident Guild" idea.... seems odd. I like the idea of the old pre-Mark Waid Legionnaires coming back somehow, and I enjoyed Meltzer playing up the fact that both the JSA and JLA are now led by women (Black Canary and Power Girl).
>
> Meltzer's run has often felt stilted somehow, and this was still the case with this issue, at least for me. But, I am curious to see where he's going with it and will continue to pick up the book.
>
> The guest artist, Shane Davis, did a really great job on the issue, I thought.


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PaulMc





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> I'm thinking the Legion members are;
> Starman
> Dream Girl
> Karate Kid
> Lightning Lad
> Dawnstar
> Ultraboy
Timberwolf



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Ed Love




> .... where the heck does Trident/Karate Kid's 'high Iron Fist collar come from all of a sudden?' He's on the medical bed in his Trident costume (ALL Trident costume with no collar), then suddenly several pages later, he's sporting the big yellow collar and his Karate Kid costume is seen under his Trident costume.

That's long been a staple of superhero fiction though, that they could wear bulky clothes underneath other clothes with no noticeable bulges or wrinkling, such as Superman's cape underneath his Clark Kent suit or the fact that Ray Palmer is wearing a near invisible tights costume over his suit when full size (and I believe the Creeper's originally worked in a very similar way) while Batman often has elaborate disguises while wearing the mask.
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> Not sure about this "Trident Guild" idea.... seems odd. I like the idea of the old pre-Mark Waid Legionnaires coming back somehow, and I enjoyed Meltzer playing up the fact that both the JSA and JLA are now led by women (Black Canary and Power Girl).

Way back in the NEW TEEN TITANS, Trident was several men using one supervillain identity. Seems they just branched out. Now, how Karate Kid got very well brain-washed into being one of them...

> Meltzer's run has often felt stilted somehow, and this was still the case with this issue, at least for me. But, I am curious to see where he's going with it and will continue to pick up the book.
>
> The guest artist, Shane Davis, did a really great job on the issue, I thought.

This was my chief beef with the issue actually. We have a Karate Kid - Batman showdown and the WHOLE thing happens in-between panels? Once is one thing but come on! This is a SUPERHERO COMIC BOOK! The whole point is to show the action, not to have what should have been one of the coolest hand to hand fight scenes ever be just talking heads! The impression I ended up coming away with that either the writer or the artist didn't trust themselves at being able to fake it (like Thomas, Kane, Claremont and Byrne wrote and drew real martial arts with Iron Fist or for that matter that anybody would realistically fight like most superhero heroes do hand to hand).


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