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AtomiX




I won't be seeing this issue for awhile, due to my location, could someone spoil me about this issue? I tried to read the spoilers below, but couldn't get a read. Is Wally back finally?

AtomiX


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Peter Svensson




> I won't be seeing this issue for awhile, due to my location, could someone spoil me about this issue? I tried to read the spoilers below, but couldn't get a read. Is Wally back finally?

The Legionnaires use their Lightning Rods, while Batman and Green Lantern remember the ghostly image of Barry Allen from Crisis. Karate Kid is hit by lightning, and hey, whaddya know? Wally, Linda and the twins are back! Wally rejoins the JLA, the Legion except for Starman and Karate Kid remain, and back in the future Brainiac 5 is happy that they got who they really wanted back, AND Wally to boot...

Peter Svensson


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Scott




> while Batman and Green Lantern remember the ghostly image of Barry Allen from Crisis.

When did Hal see that ghostly image of Barry from Crisis? Hal wasn't part of the COIE.

Scott
Super Rubbery Bung: "When did the Marvel Family magic die, really?"
Scott: "1953."


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bigtimennotime




> > while Batman and Green Lantern remember the ghostly image of Barry Allen from Crisis.
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> When did Hal see that ghostly image of Barry from Crisis? Hal wasn't part of the COIE.
>
> Scott
> Super Rubbery Bung: "When did the Marvel Family magic die, really?"
> Scott: "1953."

You're right, he wasn't part of COIE, but he did see the image of Barry dying in the issue.

-bigtime out.



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KidImpulse




No, he didn't. Hal saw the image of Barry being bathed in Electrified chemicals. But what about Per Degaton, the Ultra-Humanite, and Despero? It's not a red herring if it has nothing to do with the story, it's a non sequiter. Anyone have any ideas?

The Kid


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Scott




> > > while Batman and Green Lantern remember the ghostly image of Barry Allen from Crisis.

> > When did Hal see that ghostly image of Barry from Crisis? Hal wasn't part of the COIE.

> You're right, he wasn't part of COIE, but he did see the image of Barry dying in the issue.

I'm getting conflicting reports of this. http://www.comicboards.com/jla/view.php?rpl=070621195244

Scott
Super Rubbery Bung: "When did the Marvel Family magic die, really?"
Scott: "1953."


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TJ Burns




> > > while Batman and Green Lantern remember the ghostly image of Barry Allen from Crisis.
> >
> > When did Hal see that ghostly image of Barry from Crisis? Hal wasn't part of the COIE.
> >
> > Scott
> > Super Rubbery Bung: "When did the Marvel Family magic die, really?"
> > Scott: "1953."
>
> You're right, he wasn't part of COIE, but he did see the image of Barry dying in the issue.

Worth pointing out... Hal did participate in the CRISIS... just not in the mini itself. What was going on in GL at the time was almost as important to understanding the true impact of the Anti-Monitor's plans as the Swamp Thing title was to understanding how it affected realms that weren't just alternate Earths. Hal clawed his way out of powerlessness, made it to Oa, got a ring from a renegade Guardian and stood alone against all of his major villains except for Sinestro led by Guy Gardner to keep them from accidentally DOUBLING the Anti-Monitor's power. It's my favorite Hal story, honestly, and it deserves to be remembered.

Now, how does all this impacts his seeing Barry dying? Well, he DID see that image in GL #200, after the CRISIS... but it was a mental illusion cast by Hector Hammond, who had used his powers to learn what Batman and others had seen of Barry during the CRISIS and used it to play with Hal's mind. Since we've got a sneaky, illusion-casting villain reintroduced in this story, that might play a role. \:\)


TJB


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Peter Svensson




> No, he didn't. Hal saw the image of Barry being bathed in Electrified chemicals.

Yeah. My bad. That's what I get for trying to oversimplify.

> But what about Per Degaton, the Ultra-Humanite, and Despero? It's not a red herring if it has nothing to do with the story, it's a non sequiter. Anyone have any ideas?

It's setting them up to be villains in an upcoming story. I'm impressed. Foreshadowing subplots have kinda gone out of style these days.

Peter Svensson


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KidImpulse




I toptally agree about the subplots, and feel kinda stupid for not just thinking that. But, the fact that one of the villains (Per Degaton) is a time traveller threw me off. I was just waiting for them to do something.

The Kid


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Bob




> > I won't be seeing this issue for awhile, due to my location, could someone spoil me about this issue? I tried to read the spoilers below, but couldn't get a read. Is Wally back finally?
>
> The Legionnaires use their Lightning Rods, while Batman and Green Lantern remember the ghostly image of Barry Allen from Crisis. Karate Kid is hit by lightning, and hey, whaddya know? Wally, Linda and the twins are back! Wally rejoins the JLA, the Legion except for Starman and Karate Kid remain, and back in the future Brainiac 5 is happy that they got who they really wanted back, AND Wally to boot...
>
> Peter Svensson


Another legionaire stays behind too. Val is runing with a teammate in the Fortress of Solitude at teh end of JLA #10. Any speculations as to who that is?


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