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Fred




Bedard is saying in interviews that Batman is rearranging the Outsiders so they can do the dirty jobs the JLA can't without losing their super hero cred. Seeing as how Vixen was a member of Task Force X isn't she already as big a liability to the League (by that logic) as any member of the new Outsiders?


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Cire




> Bedard is saying in interviews that Batman is rearranging the Outsiders so they can do the dirty jobs the JLA can't without losing their super hero cred. Seeing as how Vixen was a member of Task Force X isn't she already as big a liability to the League (by that logic) as any member of the new Outsiders?

Hmmm...What's Task Force X? \:\-\|


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Fred




> > Bedard is saying in interviews that Batman is rearranging the Outsiders so they can do the dirty jobs the JLA can't without losing their super hero cred. Seeing as how Vixen was a member of Task Force X isn't she already as big a liability to the League (by that logic) as any member of the new Outsiders?
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> Hmmm...What's Task Force X? \:\-\|

Suicide Squad! Vixen's hands are pretty dirty after that stint.


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Racer Cool




I wouldn't hold being a member of the Suicide Squad against Vixen. Heck, Ray Palmer/Atom was a member of the Suicide Squad before the series got cancelled.

At one point I thought maybe Vixen would be a better Outsider than a JLAer but JLA #11 changed my mind completely. Vixen should stay as a member of the JLA for the foreseeable future.




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Scott




> I wouldn't hold being a member of the Suicide Squad against Vixen. Heck, Ray Palmer/Atom was a member of the Suicide Squad before the series got cancelled.

I believe that was actually Atom III (Adam Cray) that was part of the Suicide Squad.

Scott


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Cire




> > > Bedard is saying in interviews that Batman is rearranging the Outsiders so they can do the dirty jobs the JLA can't without losing their super hero cred. Seeing as how Vixen was a member of Task Force X isn't she already as big a liability to the League (by that logic) as any member of the new Outsiders?
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> > Hmmm...What's Task Force X? \:\-\|
>
> Suicide Squad! Vixen's hands are pretty dirty after that stint.

So what did she do that was so bad as a memeber of SS?


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Fred




> > I wouldn't hold being a member of the Suicide Squad against Vixen. Heck, Ray Palmer/Atom was a member of the Suicide Squad before the series got cancelled.
>
> I believe that was actually Atom III (Adam Cray) that was part of the Suicide Squad.
>
> Scott

It was both Adam Cray (who I think should be brought back) and Ray Palmer on Task Force X and yes, I think that should, using Bedard Logic, rule him out of the JLA. It's not just doing bad stuff. It's being part of a government task force doing bad stuff. You can cover up some misdeeds but Suicide Squad is a big ugly can of worms just wiating to be dumped on the JLA.


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Omar Karindu




> > > > Bedard is saying in interviews that Batman is rearranging the Outsiders so they can do the dirty jobs the JLA can't without losing their super hero cred. Seeing as how Vixen was a member of Task Force X isn't she already as big a liability to the League (by that logic) as any member of the new Outsiders?
> > >
> > > Hmmm...What's Task Force X? \:\-\|
> >
> > Suicide Squad! Vixen's hands are pretty dirty after that stint.
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> So what did she do that was so bad as a memeber of SS?

The Squad was a black ops squad of fallen heroes and supervillains battling for parole. While Vixen was a member, they did things like carry off political assassinations, mount illegal covert operations in foreign countries, and so on. They were authorized to use and often did use lethal force. And eventually, they just became plain mercenaries for a tme before going back under government control. Vixen herself strangled a drug kingpin to death during what was arguably an illegal sting operation in her very first Squad mission.

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Cire




> The Squad was a black ops squad of fallen heroes and supervillains battling for parole. While Vixen was a member, they did things like carry off political assassinations, mount illegal covert operations in foreign countries, and so on. They were authorized to use and often did use lethal force. And eventually, they just became plain mercenaries for a tme before going back under government control. Vixen herself strangled a drug kingpin to death during what was arguably an illegal sting operation in her very first Squad mission.

she lost control of her animal abilities which turned her into a killing machine for a short time.

She was in her rigth mind when she killed Cojo.


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TJ Burns




> > > I wouldn't hold being a member of the Suicide Squad against Vixen. Heck, Ray Palmer/Atom was a member of the Suicide Squad before the series got cancelled.
> >
> > I believe that was actually Atom III (Adam Cray) that was part of the Suicide Squad.
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> > Scott
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> It was both Adam Cray (who I think should be brought back) and Ray Palmer on Task Force X and yes, I think that should, using Bedard Logic, rule him out of the JLA. It's not just doing bad stuff. It's being part of a government task force doing bad stuff. You can cover up some misdeeds but Suicide Squad is a big ugly can of worms just wiating to be dumped on the JLA.

Ray and Mari both ended up on the Suicide Squad because their own personal enemies ended up facing down the Squad at the same time they were involved. Ray, especially, only assisted Waller because it was the only way to stop from having to escape CIA assassins every few weeks and to avenge the death of his successor. I can hardly blame him for that any more than I can blame the core League helping the Squad once. Mari's a bit more complicated of a case, since she stuck around after the Squad finished off the man she was hunting down for almost killing her and murdering her friends, but, in her defense, she had basically lost her mind with grief at that point. Oracle's worse... she intentionally helped Waller and her Squad as a way of getting back in the superhuman game after her crippling, rather than for any intense personal reason for a limited time.


TJB


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