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Unstable Molecule


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Found a link to Injustice, Gods Among Us (Year One and read the whole thing. I'm not normally a DC guy, but of course I know the characters and I found this an interesting alternate universe story. I think a lot of the characters, though not portrayed as their usual selves, get a lot of respect from the writers.

Just curious how Superman/Wonder Woman fans view this series? Wonder Woman seems to be especially bloodthirsty. I feel like if she hadn't been so supportive of Superman's turn to the dark side, it wouldn't have happened (well, the Joker still would have died). Superman, Wonder Woman and Robin seem the least sympathetic. The others have doubts about their actions, at least.

(And yes, I realize the plot is based on a video game, but I didn't play it).






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liheibao


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If you go to youtube, you can find the "cut scenes" from the video game. That is a much better story than what has been offered by Injustice: Gods Among Us for the last four years.  The idea of Superman having a tragic fall isn't original, and it's been done before.  However, for the members of the Justice League to side with him is beyond incredulous.  It falls down a very simplistic line: super-powered heroes stand with Superman, and urban crime fighters side with the Batman.  There're nearly no detractors on either side, they just fall in line.  You would think that Wonder Woman would be the most averse to what Superman is doing, as it represents the worst of "Man's World", but she just starts cracking heads as well.  It is as if all of the League, in the Injustice world, are dysfunctional, along with all of the supporting characters as well.

What's more, if Superman is to be evil, then let him go all the way with it.  He says that Batman is his worst problem, yet every time he has a chance to kill him, he doesn't.  It's beyond transparent, because Batman survives not through clever storytelling, but from the necessity of the comic being a tie-in to the video game.  That's it.  Any character that is present for the game will survive, escape, return, etc., while the rest are killed to serve up faux-consequences of an evil Superman.

Some take it as an Elseworlds, which is fair and fine, but the writing and structure of the story is so poor and demands more than disbelief, it demands stupidity of a reader, I've never warmed up to the series, though I've been reviewing it for nearly five years now.





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Gernot 

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Wait. The STREET-LEVEL characters are mixing it up with the gods who can juggle mountains and move continents when they want? And the street-levelers are NOT dead by the end of Issue 1, Page 2? What kind of writing is going ON in this book? \:\(



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liheibao


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I hope I'm not coming across hypocritically. My contention is that the lines are drawn that simply. It's not that Captain Marvel takes up with Batman, or Green Arrow with Superman, Injustice draws a line between super-powered and supra-powered, which is fine for the occasional dust-up, but when the premise is with an evil Superman, who'll "do whatever it takes", supported by the rest of the super-powered League. . .it's hard to swallow that. . .for five years. Give them the Spear of Destiny or something. ;\-\)

And, BTW, how're you doing?




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little kon-el




Actually, they do go over it. Year 3 is when they tackle it head-on. They also have something akin to Velocity 9/Bane Juice in the form of a pill that normal people take to fight against Superman and crew.

- l.k.


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liheibao


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The "super-pill" is an atrocious piece of Deux et Machina, literally. It makes Alfred strong enough knock-out Superman, but Batwoman can still have her neck snapped by Wonder Woman. Don't forget how Harley Quinn was able to waylay Lobo thanks to it. It's utter nonsense.

As for tackling "it" in Year Three, I believe they extended the question more than addressed it. It Wonder Woman could kill Huntress, then surely Superman, with his strength, durability and speed, could have done the same for the Batman.

It's an enjoyable farce, it you don't apply to much pressure to it, just like most video games are.




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Unstable Molecule


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Well - in the series' defense, there have been multiple times when Superman could have stopped/killed Batman - and vice versa - but in each case, the would-be killer stopped because they remember the dynamic they used to have, and how good it was for the world. Each of them wants things to go back to the way it used to be, but Superman won't compromise on his regime ideas. So they are at a moralistic standstill.




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liheibao


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The reason for that is the series is connected to the video game, where Batman and Superman are alive. The only characters who can be killed are the ones who don't appear in the game.

If the series displayed Batman constantly on the run, never getting into a situation with Superman, cool. However, when he's in hand-to-hand combat with Superman, and Superman doesn't kill him, or Superman just lets him go when he has him dead to rights, it's pretty hard to swallow.

That being said, Injustice does one thing that most comics have forgotten how to do: tell a story in serial form. I keep coming back (out of review responsibilities, primarily) because I want to see what will occur next. It beats every DC book I'm reading in that regard.




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thuggernaut




And yes, it's ludicrous that Superman hasn't squashed Batman. But that's how it always is in this matter.


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Oculporate




In my opinion i completely disagree. I think (and have talked about on these boards since it began) that IJ:GAU is another exmaple of how DC's best is always in elseworld's and unique properties. i akin this to Kingdomdom Come, DKR and Watchmen in quality for at least the first 3 years.


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liheibao


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    Quote:
    In my opinion i completely disagree. I think (and have talked about on these boards since it began) that IJ:GAU is another exmaple of how DC's best is always in elseworld's and unique properties. i akin this to Kingdomdom Come, DKR and Watchmen in quality for at least the first 3 years.

I'll give you the first two years.  It's a nosedive thereafter.






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