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Sweep Secondhand




I have read mixed reviews over the recent revelation that Wildcat has a son with Meta powers. I think the thing that the currant writers don't seem to understand about the character of Wildcat is that it is the fact that he does not have a specific legacy that makes him interesting and sets him apart from the rest of the JSA. Having his only son killed by a Golden Age villian and making him the fight trainer for most of the current JSA legacies as well as many other heroes makes Wildcat unique. While he has no actual legacy, in a way he has more legacies than any other character in the sense of the heroes he trains. I liked the fact that he was different and had more depth in this regard. The addiition of the new "Tomcat" just serves to rob Wildcat of his uniqueness and makes more like the other senior JSA characters. I liked him more as an uncle to everyone than a father to one.

- Sweep


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Dr. Bob




> I have read mixed reviews over the recent revelation that Wildcat has a son with Meta powers. I think the thing that the currant writers don't seem to understand about the character of Wildcat is that it is the fact that he does not have a specific legacy that makes him interesting and sets him apart from the rest of the JSA. Having his only son killed by a Golden Age villian and making him the fight trainer for most of the current JSA legacies as well as many other heroes makes Wildcat unique. While he has no actual legacy, in a way he has more legacies than any other character in the sense of the heroes he trains. I liked the fact that he was different and had more depth in this regard. The addiition of the new "Tomcat" just serves to rob Wildcat of his uniqueness and makes more like the other senior JSA characters. I liked him more as an uncle to everyone than a father to one.
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> - Sweep

Ted did kinda sorta have a legacy with the 1980s Wildcat in Infinity Incorporated but she wasn't blood. Her cousin Alex was briefly the new Eclipso (after the original killed her) in the last series, so we could stretch thngs further and say he was a legacy too. I prefer Ted as you do, but hopefully the new Wildcat will be more interesting than the last one.


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Zazu




> > I have read mixed reviews over the recent revelation that Wildcat has a son with Meta powers. I think the thing that the currant writers don't seem to understand about the character of Wildcat is that it is the fact that he does not have a specific legacy that makes him interesting and sets him apart from the rest of the JSA. Having his only son killed by a Golden Age villian and making him the fight trainer for most of the current JSA legacies as well as many other heroes makes Wildcat unique. While he has no actual legacy, in a way he has more legacies than any other character in the sense of the heroes he trains. I liked the fact that he was different and had more depth in this regard. The addiition of the new "Tomcat" just serves to rob Wildcat of his uniqueness and makes more like the other senior JSA characters. I liked him more as an uncle to everyone than a father to one.
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> Ted did kinda sorta have a legacy with the 1980s Wildcat in Infinity Incorporated but she wasn't blood. Her cousin Alex was briefly the new Eclipso (after the original killed her) in the last series, so we could stretch thngs further and say he was a legacy too. I prefer Ted as you do, but hopefully the new Wildcat will be more interesting than the last one.

I don't think Johns gets the whole legacy thing as much as people would like to think he does. Remember how he tried to work in a legacy angle in with Jay and Joan Garrick? That ended up going nowhere. Whatever interests he builds in the set up, he usually fails in the follow through. I'd say that's his downfall as a writer.


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Exile




True, Sweep...but another thing to consider is that Wildcat has been played off as something of a manwhore for awhile now too.

Wouldn't surprise me if Tomcat wasn't the only one of Ted's progeny that were out there..."catting around".

And who knows, maybe Tomcat's meta ability isn't related to Wildcat but happened due to his encounter with an ancient race of cat people or a were-cat or...it is comic books after all ;\-\) ...it could be almost anything.

E!


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Exile




> I don't think Johns gets the whole legacy thing as much as people would like to think he does. Remember how he tried to work in a legacy angle in with Jay and Joan Garrick? That ended up going nowhere. Whatever interests he builds in the set up, he usually fails in the follow through. I'd say that's his downfall as a writer.

I'd say its more a case of throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the wall and seeing what will stick. You never can tell what will be popular until you try.

I mean, heck, who would have thought that Sand would be as good a character as he turned into over the run of JSA. He might not be the most popular, but I like that character.

But then, I love Johns work, so I'm going to be an apologist and a defender there.

E!


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TJ Burns




> > I have read mixed reviews over the recent revelation that Wildcat has a son with Meta powers. I think the thing that the currant writers don't seem to understand about the character of Wildcat is that it is the fact that he does not have a specific legacy that makes him interesting and sets him apart from the rest of the JSA. Having his only son killed by a Golden Age villian and making him the fight trainer for most of the current JSA legacies as well as many other heroes makes Wildcat unique. While he has no actual legacy, in a way he has more legacies than any other character in the sense of the heroes he trains. I liked the fact that he was different and had more depth in this regard. The addiition of the new "Tomcat" just serves to rob Wildcat of his uniqueness and makes more like the other senior JSA characters. I liked him more as an uncle to everyone than a father to one.
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> Ted did kinda sorta have a legacy with the 1980s Wildcat in Infinity Incorporated but she wasn't blood. Her cousin Alex was briefly the new Eclipso (after the original killed her) in the last series, so we could stretch thngs further and say he was a legacy too. I prefer Ted as you do, but hopefully the new Wildcat will be more interesting than the last one.

Ted also had a trainee steal his costume and get killed off by Killer Croc in the Batman/Wildcat mini.


TJB


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Dr. Bob




> > I don't think Johns gets the whole legacy thing as much as people would like to think he does. Remember how he tried to work in a legacy angle in with Jay and Joan Garrick? That ended up going nowhere. Whatever interests he builds in the set up, he usually fails in the follow through. I'd say that's his downfall as a writer.
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> I'd say its more a case of throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the wall and seeing what will stick. You never can tell what will be popular until you try.
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It reminds me a bit of Chris Claremont's throwing out a dozen subplots in every issue of X-Men, many of which were never touched on again or returned to so many issues later we'd forgotten all about them. Johns has more discipline in my opinion that Claremont so it's not so bad here.

> I mean, heck, who would have thought that Sand would be as good a character as he turned into over the run of JSA. He might not be the most popular, but I like that character.
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I hope Sand returns in a bigger role too. I kinda like his new look but it's a bit too "spooky" for my taste. I liked his military-style gear from the beginning of the last series. It seems like they're playing up the dream angle and playing down the geomorph thing, which is fine by me.

> But then, I love Johns work, so I'm going to be an apologist and a defender there.
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I'm not slagging either!


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Talezite




> > > I don't think Johns gets the whole legacy thing as much as people would like to think he does. Remember how he tried to work in a legacy angle in with Jay and Joan Garrick? That ended up going nowhere. Whatever interests he builds in the set up, he usually fails in the follow through. I'd say that's his downfall as a writer.
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> > I'd say its more a case of throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the wall and seeing what will stick. You never can tell what will be popular until you try.
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> It reminds me a bit of Chris Claremont's throwing out a dozen subplots in every issue of X-Men, many of which were never touched on again or returned to so many issues later we'd forgotten all about them. Johns has more discipline in my opinion that Claremont so it's not so bad here.
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> > I mean, heck, who would have thought that Sand would be as good a character as he turned into over the run of JSA. He might not be the most popular, but I like that character.
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> I hope Sand returns in a bigger role too. I kinda like his new look but it's a bit too "spooky" for my taste. I liked his military-style gear from the beginning of the last series. It seems like they're playing up the dream angle and playing down the geomorph thing, which is fine by me.
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> > But then, I love Johns work, so I'm going to be an apologist and a defender there.
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> I'm not slagging either!


Those are good points on Wildcat. Him being an uncle figure is an interesting take and I did not look at it that way. Maybe they just want to use the Kingdom come characters and its a simple as that. All in all I am looking forward to JSA number 4.


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Beowulf




> True, Sweep...but another thing to consider is that Wildcat has been played off as something of a manwhore for awhile now too.
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> Wouldn't surprise me if Tomcat wasn't the only one of Ted's progeny that were out there..."catting around".
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> And who knows, maybe Tomcat's meta ability isn't related to Wildcat but happened due to his encounter with an ancient race of cat people or a were-cat or...it is comic books after all ;\-\) ...it could be almost anything.
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> E!

I suspect, it has something to do with the curse, Wildcat is suffering from, that was supposed to turn him into a cat, but was altered by Zatara into the nine lives thing.


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