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fred




Every once in a while does it bother anyone else that there is supposed to be three surviving members of a team that originated around the time of World War 2? I know Alan Scott internalized teh Starheart and Wildcat had nine lives and Jay Garrick's super-speed somehow has slowed his aging but it just rankles every now and then? I often wish DC hadn't gotten the wrong idea that the multiple Earths were confusing. Than JSA stories wouldn't be tied down so bad.


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The Creeper




> Every once in a while does it bother anyone else that there is supposed to be three surviving members of a team that originated around the time of World War 2? I know Alan Scott internalized teh Starheart and Wildcat had nine lives and Jay Garrick's super-speed somehow has slowed his aging but it just rankles every now and then? I often wish DC hadn't gotten the wrong idea that the multiple Earths were confusing. Than JSA stories wouldn't be tied down so bad.

I can handle the aging thing on Alan, Ted, and Jay's part, but what bugs me is that their wives are still alive...


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Scott




> I can handle the aging thing on Alan, Ted, and Jay's part, but what bugs me is that their wives are still alive...

Roy Thomas' solution still works for the heroes and the wives.

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The Creeper




> > I can handle the aging thing on Alan, Ted, and Jay's part, but what bugs me is that their wives are still alive...
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> Roy Thomas' solution still works for the heroes and the wives.

Yeah, I understand their slowed againg as well, I just think it would be somewhat more interesting if the wives had health issues related with their age. I'm not syaing kill them off necessarily, but make the age an issue. They're seniors, let them deal with issues relating to this,


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TJ Burns




> > > I can handle the aging thing on Alan, Ted, and Jay's part, but what bugs me is that their wives are still alive...
> >
> > Roy Thomas' solution still works for the heroes and the wives.
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> Yeah, I understand their slowed againg as well, I just think it would be somewhat more interesting if the wives had health issues related with their age. I'm not syaing kill them off necessarily, but make the age an issue. They're seniors, let them deal with issues relating to this,

... there are FOUR surviving Golden Age members. Hawkman counts. \:\) Not to mention Ma Hunkle still running around.


TJB


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Zazu




> > > > I can handle the aging thing on Alan, Ted, and Jay's part, but what bugs me is that their wives are still alive...
> > >
> > > Roy Thomas' solution still works for the heroes and the wives.
> >
> > Yeah, I understand their slowed againg as well, I just think it would be somewhat more interesting if the wives had health issues related with their age. I'm not syaing kill them off necessarily, but make the age an issue. They're seniors, let them deal with issues relating to this,
>
> ... there are FOUR surviving Golden Age members. Hawkman counts. \:\) Not to mention Ma Hunkle still running around.

What gets me is that about 25 years ago or so they all started having kids (with one big exception of Black Canary who may have had BC II 30 years ago). I could kind of understand them having kids when they were in their 40's or 50's but soon the floating timeline will have them becoming parents in their 90's (or else the original Infinity Inc will have to be made older than Superman, Batman, etc).


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TJ Burns




> > > > > I can handle the aging thing on Alan, Ted, and Jay's part, but what bugs me is that their wives are still alive...
> > > >
> > > > Roy Thomas' solution still works for the heroes and the wives.
> > >
> > > Yeah, I understand their slowed againg as well, I just think it would be somewhat more interesting if the wives had health issues related with their age. I'm not syaing kill them off necessarily, but make the age an issue. They're seniors, let them deal with issues relating to this,
> >
> > ... there are FOUR surviving Golden Age members. Hawkman counts. \:\) Not to mention Ma Hunkle still running around.
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> What gets me is that about 25 years ago or so they all started having kids (with one big exception of Black Canary who may have had BC II 30 years ago). I could kind of understand them having kids when they were in their 40's or 50's but soon the floating timeline will have them becoming parents in their 90's (or else the original Infinity Inc will have to be made older than Superman, Batman, etc).

The sliding timescale really destroys Infinity Inc., doesn't it? Damage's case is worse, since it has Al Pratt managing it after the JLA was formed!


TJB


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moonlight_night78




> > > > > > I can handle the aging thing on Alan, Ted, and Jay's part, but what bugs me is that their wives are still alive...
> > > > >
> > > > > Roy Thomas' solution still works for the heroes and the wives.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I understand their slowed againg as well, I just think it would be somewhat more interesting if the wives had health issues related with their age. I'm not syaing kill them off necessarily, but make the age an issue. They're seniors, let them deal with issues relating to this,
> > >
> > > ... there are FOUR surviving Golden Age members. Hawkman counts. \:\) Not to mention Ma Hunkle still running around.
> >
> > What gets me is that about 25 years ago or so they all started having kids (with one big exception of Black Canary who may have had BC II 30 years ago). I could kind of understand them having kids when they were in their 40's or 50's but soon the floating timeline will have them becoming parents in their 90's (or else the original Infinity Inc will have to be made older than Superman, Batman, etc).
>
> The sliding timescale really destroys Infinity Inc., doesn't it? Damage's case is worse, since it has Al Pratt managing it after the JLA was formed!
>
>
> TJB

Honestly, I could see them eventally just saying that most everybody JSA-related got stuck in suspended animation in Keystone City with the Flash. It's going to eventually be the only way that they can keep everything together with the sliding timeline if they want to keep them all on the same earth.


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fred




> > > > ... there are FOUR surviving Golden Age members. Hawkman counts. \:\)
> >
> > The sliding timescale really destroys Infinity Inc., doesn't it? Damage's case is worse, since it has Al Pratt managing it after the JLA was formed!

Damage was conceived artificially so he's not affected. And it's also bugged me that until the new JSA series, every hero who had kids only had one (or twins). Who in their generation had only one kid? And why not have a few in your late twenties and thirties and then a few more every decade or so. These heroes should have children that look older than they do!

And Hawkman has been screwed with so much I'm not sure what he counts as. Isn't his current body two but artificially aged?


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Ed Love





> > > > > Roy Thomas' solution still works for the heroes and the wives.

> > What gets me is that about 25 years ago or so they all started having kids (with one big exception of Black Canary who may have had BC II 30 years ago). I could kind of understand them having kids when they were in their 40's or 50's but soon the floating timeline will have them becoming parents in their 90's (or else the original Infinity Inc will have to be made older than Superman, Batman, etc).
>
> The sliding timescale really destroys Infinity Inc., doesn't it? Damage's case is worse, since it has Al Pratt managing it after the JLA was formed!

Yeah, as much as I like the heroes of Infiniti Inc, the sliding timescale doesn't work with them, I'm of the mind that the JSA shouldn't have had kids. They did, so it's one of the issues I think is just better to turn a blind eye to, that for some reason the team members chose not to start families until much later and let it go at that. I don't have any problems with them being ABLE to have kids as the same spells and such that artificially kept them young and prime, would make that still viable too. I wish we still had the whole team around, all looking about forty something with graying hair but still in good active shape, still able to buckle those swashes with the best of them.

At least Stargirl and her step-brother work because Stripesy and the rest of the 7 Soldiers skipped an ambiguous amount of time. I think eventually we're going to learn that's the real reason why the JSA disappeared for years: shortly after their disbandment, they went on one last secret mission, the whole team (maybe an undercover one that involved the spouses, one or two secretly pregnant, as part of their "cover") and ended up getting shunted forward in time for an unspecified bit of time. They re-emerged a decade before the founding of the JLA and were not active as public heroes while they concentrated on restoring their lives and raising new families.

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Lt. War Clutch




Geez, a founding member and everyone forgets that he's still around. Just retired, but alive.

Hourman looks about the same now as he did in the Pre-Crisis era. Is the Ian Karkull thing still being used to explain that? Or is his age controlled by Miraclo now?


> > > > I can handle the aging thing on Alan, Ted, and Jay's part, but what bugs me is that their wives are still alive...
> > >
> > > Roy Thomas' solution still works for the heroes and the wives.
> >
> > Yeah, I understand their slowed againg as well, I just think it would be somewhat more interesting if the wives had health issues related with their age. I'm not syaing kill them off necessarily, but make the age an issue. They're seniors, let them deal with issues relating to this,
>
> ... there are FOUR surviving Golden Age members. Hawkman counts. \:\) Not to mention Ma Hunkle still running around.
>
>
> TJB


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TJ Burns





> Damage was conceived artificially so he's not affected.

Didn't Vandal Savage kidnapped the baby that Al Pratt and his wife were having and altered it, not created it utterly?

> And it's also bugged me that until the new JSA series, every hero who had kids only had one (or twins). Who in their generation had only one kid? And why not have a few in your late twenties and thirties and then a few more every decade or so. These heroes should have children that look older than they do!

I figure that's true for some of them, like Ma Hunkle. \:\)

> And Hawkman has been screwed with so much I'm not sure what he counts as. Isn't his current body two but artificially aged?

Nope. It's in its 90s, but de-aged. \:\)


TJB


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TJ Burns




> Geez, a founding member and everyone forgets that he's still around. Just retired, but alive.
>
> Hourman looks about the same now as he did in the Pre-Crisis era. Is the Ian Karkull thing still being used to explain that? Or is his age controlled by Miraclo now?

He's the ONLY JSAer that's still under the effects of Fate's age-protecting spell, since he was removed from the timestream before it was canceled out.


TJB


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fred




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> > Damage was conceived artificially so he's not affected.
>
> Didn't Vandal Savage kidnapped the baby that Al Pratt and his wife were having and altered it, not created it utterly?
>

I think you're thinking of the false clues that Damage was Iron Munroe and Phantom Lady's kidnapped baby.


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