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zvelf




...does it seem like every issue of JSA is just an excuse to introduce yet more members? I want a real story! I want some suspense! I want a big villain! The team has become completely unwieldy.



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Abe




> ...does it seem like every issue of JSA is just an excuse to introduce yet more members? I want a real story! I want some suspense! I want a big villain! The team has become completely unwieldy.
>

Yes!
I was cautious about getting this new series, but I thought that if it was anything like the last series, I couldn't go wrong.
Whilst new members or guest-stars of obscure heroes is fun every so often, that's just it, every so often.
As Grandma Simpson would say, "Just eat the damn orange!"
Haha.
Abe- still enjoying the series.


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Daveym




> ...does it seem like every issue of JSA is just an excuse to introduce yet more members? I want a real story! I want some suspense! I want a big villain! The team has become completely unwieldy.
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No you're right. But at the same time i have to say Johns has real talent at creating these new characters - the new Judomaster is intriguing, Cyclone is a dear, Amazing Man has won me over immediatly - there's something a lot more convincing about him than his predecessors... not a fan of Wildcats son though *rhe*
I think with the rumor of a new Infinity Inc that's where it's headed.
But you are right in that all this foundation building has blighted the book, not much of a solid storyline has occured as yet outside of the Lightning Saga and that was entirely open ended...
To an extent it was also a hallmark of the last series though, long stretches of reinvention and empire building but you have to have faith it will all pay off in the long run. I have a lot of faith in Johns, Green Lantern was a slow burner and not much seemed to be happening until with the Sinestro Wars everything fell into place and you could see everything had had a method all along! That was fantastic plotting and crafting from Johns. He had a longterm plan and we were rewarded. I trust him to do the same with current JSA.


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Seyg-El




Well...there is already an Infinity Inc title...starring Steel and some of the surviving Everyman project subjects...

But we were told that it was going to be a large cast at the beginning, and that it would rotate...

I like Johns, and think he has a plan...we just need to enjoy the story now and be patient for where it leads.


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Ed Love




> Well...there is already an Infinity Inc title...starring Steel and some of the surviving Everyman project subjects...
>
> But we were told that it was going to be a large cast at the beginning, and that it would rotate...
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> I like Johns, and think he has a plan...we just need to enjoy the story now and be patient for where it leads.

I disagree. Just because we were told it was going to be a big cast doesn't let Johns off the hook if people don't think the execution works. And in this day and age of decompressed storytelling and the price points of comics, I find my patience is far shorter. Writers need to realize they are still writing comics that are monthly and not direct to trades. The stories need to have the proper pacing for both.

It was actually the announcement that it would be a large cast that made me have doubts in the beginning. Johns does some good stuff in the small personal stories. I loved STARS AND S.T.R.I.P.E.S and thought his Hawkman was often very good for what it was. But, I have felt that his work on the JSA and the Avengers never found their focus, characters tended to be only used as plot devices, shuffled off when their particular plot played out.


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Seyg-El




> I disagree. Just because we were told it was going to be a big cast doesn't let Johns off the hook if people don't think the execution works. And in this day and age of decompressed storytelling and the price points of comics, I find my patience is far shorter. Writers need to realize they are still writing comics that are monthly and not direct to trades. The stories need to have the proper pacing for both.
>
> It was actually the announcement that it would be a large cast that made me have doubts in the beginning. Johns does some good stuff in the small personal stories. I loved STARS AND S.T.R.I.P.E.S and thought his Hawkman was often very good for what it was. But, I have felt that his work on the JSA and the Avengers never found their focus, characters tended to be only used as plot devices, shuffled off when their particular plot played out.

Ok...fair point. I, for one, enjoy the pacing and what's going on. But if you ask five different people their opinion, you'll get five different answers.

If it's not working for you, why still buy?


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zvelf




> > ...does it seem like every issue of JSA is just an excuse to introduce yet more members? I want a real story! I want some suspense! I want a big villain! The team has become completely unwieldy.
> >
> No you're right. But at the same time i have to say Johns has real talent at creating these new characters - the new Judomaster is intriguing, Cyclone is a dear, Amazing Man has won me over immediatly - there's something a lot more convincing about him than his predecessors... not a fan of Wildcats son though *rhe*
> I think with the rumor of a new Infinity Inc that's where it's headed.
> But you are right in that all this foundation building has blighted the book, not much of a solid storyline has occured as yet outside of the Lightning Saga and that was entirely open ended...
> To an extent it was also a hallmark of the last series though, long stretches of reinvention and empire building but you have to have faith it will all pay off in the long run. I have a lot of faith in Johns, Green Lantern was a slow burner and not much seemed to be happening until with the Sinestro Wars everything fell into place and you could see everything had had a method all along! That was fantastic plotting and crafting from Johns. He had a longterm plan and we were rewarded. I trust him to do the same with current JSA.

Well, the Sinestro War did pay off in spades. I'm watching and waiting with JSA, but it's going to have to be twice as good as Sinestro War for the pay off to feel worth it!



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Sweep Secondhand




> Well, the Sinestro War did pay off in spades. I'm watching and waiting with JSA, but it's going to have to be twice as good as Sinestro War for the pay off to feel worth it!
>

Agreed. Right now it feels like they are just overloading the cast with characters so they have some cannon fodder for some "epic" storyline. Apparently DC hasn't figured out that it's hard to get emotional over the death's of undeveloped characters the reader hasn't been given time or reason to care about.

- Sweep


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zvelf




> > Well, the Sinestro War did pay off in spades. I'm watching and waiting with JSA, but it's going to have to be twice as good as Sinestro War for the pay off to feel worth it!
> >
>
> Agreed. Right now it feels like they are just overloading the cast with characters so they have some cannon fodder for some "epic" storyline. Apparently DC hasn't figured out that it's hard to get emotional over the death's of undeveloped characters the reader hasn't been given time or reason to care about.

Well, #13 which came out yesterday actually mocks itself with how large the team has grown, so Johns is clearly aware of how ridiculous it is. It also looks like we might finally get some real action next issue against someone who is not a disposable villain.



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zvelf





> > It was actually the announcement that it would be a large cast that made me have doubts in the beginning. Johns does some good stuff in the small personal stories. I loved STARS AND S.T.R.I.P.E.S and thought his Hawkman was often very good for what it was. But, I have felt that his work on the JSA and the Avengers never found their focus, characters tended to be only used as plot devices, shuffled off when their particular plot played out.
>
> Ok...fair point. I, for one, enjoy the pacing and what's going on. But if you ask five different people their opinion, you'll get five different answers.
>
> If it's not working for you, why still buy?

Up until #13 yesterday, I didn’t. I only have half the issues of the new run, having dropped it after it got boring. I only skim an issue in the shop to see if the story is picking up. It picked up enough with #13 that I bought it.



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oldman




> ...does it seem like every issue of JSA is just an excuse to introduce yet more members? I want a real story! I want some suspense! I want a big villain! The team has become completely unwieldy.
>


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