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Justice Society is my number one favorite comic and the last one to go if I had to start cutting back on my pull. One thing that irritates me about this comic and DC comics in general is the length of time it takes to tell a story (span of issues) and the completely superfluous filler material we get in between. I grew up reading comics in the 70's when a lot of really good stories were told in 1-2 issues and they moved at an action packed pace. I specifically buy less comic books and avoid new titles because I don't want to waste 10-20 issues getting through 3-4 story arcs if I am lucky only to find out the title is lame. If DC went back to the average story being 1-2 issues I would actually buy more titles and be much more likely to try out new ones. Does anyone else feel the same way? I am just curious if DC might be losing some revenue on this.

- Sweep


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Ohotmu the all-knowing




> Justice Society is my number one favorite comic and the last one to go if I had to start cutting back on my pull. One thing that irritates me about this comic and DC comics in general is the length of time it takes to tell a story (span of issues) and the completely superfluous filler material we get in between. I grew up reading comics in the 70's when a lot of really good stories were told in 1-2 issues and they moved at an action packed pace. I specifically buy less comic books and avoid new titles because I don't want to waste 10-20 issues getting through 3-4 story arcs if I am lucky only to find out the title is lame. If DC went back to the average story being 1-2 issues I would actually buy more titles and be much more likely to try out new ones. Does anyone else feel the same way? I am just curious if DC might be losing some revenue on this.
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...I think that we're out of luck if we're hoping for a return to the days of when stories are fast-paced, consistently entertaining, and packaged in stories that are resolved in under 3 issues.

Until there's a significant change in the way comics are bought-and-sold (and I have no idea what that change would be), we're going to be forced to deal with 5-or-more-issue storyarcs. They're packaged that way because the comic companies can double-dip on the efforts of their creative talent by getting some readers' $$$ thru their buying of the individual comics and others' $$$ thru their purchase of the TPB's later.

Plus, efforts to sell comics that tell stories that aren't published in this "decompressed" manner don't seem to gain a foothold. Haven't both JLA-Classified and JSA-Classified both been cancelled? Ditto with some of Marvel's "Marvel Adventures" titles.

Perhaps it's a problem with the creative talent, and perhaps it's a problem with the medium. Regardless, the end result appears to be a general lack of support for this format.

Ohotmu



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Ham




> > Justice Society is my number one favorite comic and the last one to go if I had to start cutting back on my pull. One thing that irritates me about this comic and DC comics in general is the length of time it takes to tell a story (span of issues) and the completely superfluous filler material we get in between. I grew up reading comics in the 70's when a lot of really good stories were told in 1-2 issues and they moved at an action packed pace. I specifically buy less comic books and avoid new titles because I don't want to waste 10-20 issues getting through 3-4 story arcs if I am lucky only to find out the title is lame. If DC went back to the average story being 1-2 issues I would actually buy more titles and be much more likely to try out new ones. Does anyone else feel the same way? I am just curious if DC might be losing some revenue on this.
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> ...I think that we're out of luck if we're hoping for a return to the days of when stories are fast-paced, consistently entertaining, and packaged in stories that are resolved in under 3 issues.
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> Until there's a significant change in the way comics are bought-and-sold (and I have no idea what that change would be), we're going to be forced to deal with 5-or-more-issue storyarcs. They're packaged that way because the comic companies can double-dip on the efforts of their creative talent by getting some readers' $$$ thru their buying of the individual comics and others' $$$ thru their purchase of the TPB's later.
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> Plus, efforts to sell comics that tell stories that aren't published in this "decompressed" manner don't seem to gain a foothold. Haven't both JLA-Classified and JSA-Classified both been cancelled? Ditto with some of Marvel's "Marvel Adventures" titles.
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> Perhaps it's a problem with the creative talent, and perhaps it's a problem with the medium. Regardless, the end result appears to be a general lack of support for this format.
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> Ohotmu
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I agree up to a point. First, JSA Classified and JLA Classified were both horrible, so I wouldn't use them as examples. I agree that the powers that be are asking their creative teams to stretch out the stories for trade paper backs purposes. However, I think that the people who prefer to buy their comics as TPB would still buy them that way, whether the trade held one five part story or five one part stories.


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Sweep Secondhand




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> I agree up to a point. First, JSA Classified and JLA Classified were both horrible, so I wouldn't use them as examples. I agree that the powers that be are asking their creative teams to stretch out the stories for trade paper backs purposes. However, I think that the people who prefer to buy their comics as TPB would still buy them that way, whether the trade held one five part story or five one part stories.
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I've never read JLA Classified but as much I love the Justice Society, I have to agree that JSA Classified sucked for the most part. Even at 2-3 issues, many of their stories still seemed padded. The Green Lantern / Vandal Savage one was particularly excrutiating in pace and outcome. It also amazed me that for all the interesting characters they have in the current JSA lineup, the writers kept falling back on Wildcat and Green Lantern all the time. I love the old gaurd but the stories were lame for the most part and their were some interesting newer ones like Stargirl, Jakeem Thunder, and even Sand that I would have liked to see more of. The blame for the demise of that title has to be placed squarely on the writers.

I think you are absolutely right about the length of stories in a TPB not making much difference to the buyer. If anything, DC would probably sell more individual comics if they went to shorter stories and those cost more than the TPBs.

- Sweep

- Sweep


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Ohotmu the all-knowing

Viva la TPB



> > > Justice Society is my number one favorite comic and the last one to go if I had to start cutting back on my pull. One thing that irritates me about this comic and DC comics in general is the length of time it takes to tell a story (span of issues) and the completely superfluous filler material we get in between. I grew up reading comics in the 70's when a lot of really good stories were told in 1-2 issues and they moved at an action packed pace. I specifically buy less comic books and avoid new titles because I don't want to waste 10-20 issues getting through 3-4 story arcs if I am lucky only to find out the title is lame. If DC went back to the average story being 1-2 issues I would actually buy more titles and be much more likely to try out new ones. Does anyone else feel the same way? I am just curious if DC might be losing some revenue on this.
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> > > - Sweep
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> > ...I think that we're out of luck if we're hoping for a return to the days of when stories are fast-paced, consistently entertaining, and packaged in stories that are resolved in under 3 issues.
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> > Until there's a significant change in the way comics are bought-and-sold (and I have no idea what that change would be), we're going to be forced to deal with 5-or-more-issue storyarcs. They're packaged that way because the comic companies can double-dip on the efforts of their creative talent by getting some readers' $$$ thru their buying of the individual comics and others' $$$ thru their purchase of the TPB's later.
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> > Plus, efforts to sell comics that tell stories that aren't published in this "decompressed" manner don't seem to gain a foothold. Haven't both JLA-Classified and JSA-Classified both been cancelled? Ditto with some of Marvel's "Marvel Adventures" titles.
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> > Perhaps it's a problem with the creative talent, and perhaps it's a problem with the medium. Regardless, the end result appears to be a general lack of support for this format.
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> > Ohotmu
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> I agree up to a point. First, JSA Classified and JLA Classified were both horrible, so I wouldn't use them as examples. I agree that the powers that be are asking their creative teams to stretch out the stories for trade paper backs purposes. However, I think that the people who prefer to buy their comics as TPB would still buy them that way, whether the trade held one five part story or five one part stories.



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Superman's Pal

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> I agree up to a point. First, JSA Classified and JLA Classified were both horrible, so I wouldn't use them as examples.

Whether they were horrible or not, they didn't really tell single issue stories anyway. Especially JLA Classified, it was nothing but 3-6 issue arcs. JSA Classified had a few one-shots but most of their spotlight on solo characters were still 2-3 issues.

> I think that the people who prefer to buy their comics as TPB would still buy them that way, whether the trade held one five part story or five one part stories.

Yeah, they don't seem to have any trouble selling TPBs that collect old 70s and 80s single-issue stories, don't have trouble selling Showcase volumes do they?





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