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Did I recently read somewhere that on Earth-2, Clark's adoptive parents were named John and Mary? Not Jonathan and Martha?

Odd thing is, in an early issue of Batman/Superman, it appeared a young mainstream Superman, transported to Earth-2, RECOGNIZED the Kents of Earth-2 as being doubles of his parents... You know, Jonathan and Martha.

Sort of odd if they had different first names.

Anyone have a solid enough grasp of this to clear it up for me?

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Anyone able to answer a questioned I asked below, namely 'What effect is the yellow/red binary star system having on Karen's and Val-Zod's powers?'





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Daveym 

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    Did I recently read somewhere that on Earth-2, Clark's adoptive parents were named John and Mary? Not Jonathan and Martha?



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    Odd thing is, in an early issue of Batman/Superman, it appeared a young mainstream Superman, transported to Earth-2, RECOGNIZED the Kents of Earth-2 as being doubles of his parents... You know, Jonathan and Martha.

I don't know where "John and Mary" come from, in their few appearances in Batman-Superman and World's Finest they have been consistently depicted and always named as Martha and Jonothan. Jonathan was killed by the Evil-Superman/Bizarro while Martha almost certainly perished sometime later in Worlds End as Apokolips took Earth.


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    Sort of odd if they had different first names.



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    Anyone have a solid enough grasp of this to clear it up for me?



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    Anyone able to answer a questioned I asked below, namely 'What effect is the yellow/red binary star system having on Karen's and Val-Zod's powers?'

Yes, since the planet is in an orbit with two stars it means that one day the red sun will be closest and therefore the Kryptonians will be powerless or close to it, and the next day the world will be closest to the yellow star, hence full power to Kara and Superman.
You have to assume this is being done for dramatic reasons, but It's a bizarre and alienating quirk to saddle the book with...


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Sethno


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Especially when you consider that (unless the rules are different in the Earth-2 universe) just being exposed to a red star doesn't shut down Kryptonian powers, but rather just stops charging them.

Oh, wait... Pre-Flashpoint New Earth changed that around the time of Chris Kent's introduction. Batman claimed red solar energy "surrounds" stored yellow and prevents its being used. (Which still didn't explain things like Superman having been shown flying thru red stars and still having a measure of his powers afterward.)

Hmmm...

I can't recall if nu52 Notrunksman has been shown dealing with red solar radiation.





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    Especially when you consider that (unless the rules are different in the Earth-2 universe) just being exposed to a red star doesn't shut down Kryptonian powers, but rather just stops charging them.

I suspect the rules are different, indeed the evidence so far suggests it does wipe out their solar reserves and they have to recharge from empty.


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    Oh, wait... Pre-Flashpoint New Earth changed that around the time of Chris Kent's introduction. Batman claimed red solar energy "surrounds" stored yellow and prevents its being used. (Which still didn't explain things like Superman having been shown flying thru red stars and still having a measure of his powers afterward.)



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    Hmmm...

Well there is bound to be occasional inconsistency but in general it was shown again and again that unless it was a full red sun then it tok time for Red Sun radiation to take effect - think of Ruin's final attack and Amalak's later efforts and you see there isn't a strong enough radiation exposure to immediately defeat him. You might criticise the occasion where he and Kal-L fly through a red sun in Infinite Crisis but that was a calculated effort and done at superspeed with Mogo waiting on the other side to give them shelter, which is quite different to his arrival in the 31st century and war with Earth-Man.


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    I can't recall if nu52 Notrunksman has been shown dealing with red solar radiation.

He has indeed, his resistance is even greater than previous to Flashpoint.


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JesusFan


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So the E2 Supers are more akin to how Daxiamites lose their powers right after exposure to a red Sun, unlike our Supers who can still be super for awhile?



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