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Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the Earth's greatest villian ? Or are you interested in a new bad guy going for the title ?


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Coisa




> Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the Earth's greatest villian ? Or are you interested in a new bad guy going for the title ?

I want to see Dr Doom as a serious threat that he once was.
And since he was part of the Arthurian trip that was the Genesis of Civil War ( according to Civil War : confession) i would like to see his opinion on the whole matter.


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MichaelRGrimm




> Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the Earth's greatest villian ? Or are you interested in a new bad guy going for the title ?

Makeover might be a bit "extreme". heheheheheheheh sorry about the pun.
In all seriousness, a makeover sounds too much like a big change in caracter so I would say no. However, I do agree a major storyline where he proves just how intelligent, powerful, and a force to be reckoned with he is would be a good thing. I personally would like to see a major event crossover where he succeeds in taking over the world. A storyline encompessing every title, with heroes underground, in fear for their lives, striving to return the Earth to the staus quo. It would have to be a couple years running. Would be a truly groundbreaking series of unbelievable ambition that would shake up 616 continuity for many years. And, it would help make the villains of comci books much more serious a force than it seems to be these days. I do believe Doom is the greatest villain in comics. Such a great, complex character.
Things seem to go in cycles in comics. Hero and villain popularity. Plot ideas. Right now Marvel's exploring other things to sell books and shake up their industry. Seem to be on a hero vs hero kick quite a bit lately. Hopefully, storytelling will return to grandious menaces from the supervillain community. Especially from the Monarch of Latveria!

ITS PONDERRIN' TIME


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Jase




> > Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the Earth's greatest villian ? Or are you interested in a new bad guy going for the title ?
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> I want to see Dr Doom as a serious threat that he once was.
> And since he was part of the Arthurian trip that was the Genesis of Civil War ( according to Civil War : confession) i would like to see his opinion on the whole matter.

I don't think it can be classified as his complete opinion on the whole matter, but he does sort of sound off on some of the events of CW, at least as it pertains to Reed Richards in the latest issue of the FF -

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bd2999




> Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the Earth's greatest villian ? Or are you interested in a new bad guy going for the title ?

Look at all he does, most hero groups get really worried when they hear he is involved. The man is a monster. Is always good to see himd o somethingb ut he has basicly done it all. Aside from the FF and all he has done very well against other groups. He has done some big things as well, not always universe shattering but major to Earth and countries.


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FirstChAoS




> In all seriousness, a makeover sounds too much like a big change in caracter so I would say no. However, I do agree a major storyline where he proves just how intelligent, powerful, and a force to be reckoned with he is would be a good thing. I personally would like to see a major event crossover where he succeeds in taking over the world. A storyline encompessing every title, with heroes underground, in fear for their lives, striving to return the Earth to the staus quo. It would have to be a couple years running. Would be a truly groundbreaking series of unbelievable ambition that would shake up 616 continuity for many years. And, it would help make the villains of comci books much more serious a force than it seems to be these days. I do believe Doom is the greatest villain in comics. Such a great, complex character.
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Interesting idea, I can easilly see that as the idea to retcon Civil War. Especially even though they act like US enforcers shield is really UN. Maybe doom manipulates them to take over the US then the rest of the world and the war on doom tooles things, shows people their mistakes, and brings back heroism again.

As for doom himself, I only read a couple stories with him in it and I was unimpressed. They sort of had him shown as an over the top "Muhahaha! Arrogant fools! Their is no way your puny efforts can stop my conquest" type villain.


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MichaelRGrimm




> > In all seriousness, a makeover sounds too much like a big change in caracter so I would say no. However, I do agree a major storyline where he proves just how intelligent, powerful, and a force to be reckoned with he is would be a good thing. I personally would like to see a major event crossover where he succeeds in taking over the world. A storyline encompessing every title, with heroes underground, in fear for their lives, striving to return the Earth to the staus quo. It would have to be a couple years running. Would be a truly groundbreaking series of unbelievable ambition that would shake up 616 continuity for many years. And, it would help make the villains of comci books much more serious a force than it seems to be these days. I do believe Doom is the greatest villain in comics. Such a great, complex character.
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> Interesting idea, I can easilly see that as the idea to retcon Civil War. Especially even though they act like US enforcers shield is really UN. Maybe doom manipulates them to take over the US then the rest of the world and the war on doom tooles things, shows people their mistakes, and brings back heroism again.
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> As for doom himself, I only read a couple stories with him in it and I was unimpressed. They sort of had him shown as an over the top "Muhahaha! Arrogant fools! Their is no way your puny efforts can stop my conquest" type villain.

As always, its in who writes him (or any other character). Brubakers Books of Doom mini I thought was excellent. I thought JMS did a pretty decent job by the character, too, recently in the FF mag. Hudlin's interpretation of him in Black Panther was very poor and off the mark. I always thought the original Secret Wars way back when was one of Doom's best moments in Marvel history. There's lots more excellent tales with him, too. And just as many poor ones, I suppose.

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Dr. Shallot




> Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the Earth's greatest villian ? Or are you interested in a new bad guy going for the title ?

Doom, IMO, is still the premiere bad guy of the MU. Have there been some bad Doom stories? Sure. Although rotten to the core, he still carries himself with a sense of honor and dignity.

One of my favorite Doom stories is Simonson's take on the character, when Doc comes back from a time-travelling adventure and reveals that for a lot of his recent history it was a Doombot who had assumed the Doom identity. With one word he takes out both the fake Doom and Kristoff and reestablishes himself as the rightful lord of Latveria.

Doom will always be Marvel's greatest villain. Any other contender to the throne will have to go up against Victor. No flip flopping back and forth like Magneto or massive overexposure combined with bizarre characterization like the Green Goblin. Doom's the real deal, and he laughs at Richards, Stark and Pym as they wage their little Civil War.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Doc Sycophant...I mean Doc Shallot

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jay




> > Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the Earth's greatest villian ? Or are you interested in a new bad guy going for the title ?
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> Doom, IMO, is still the premiere bad guy of the MU. Have there been some bad Doom stories? Sure. Although rotten to the core, he still carries himself with a sense of honor and dignity.
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> One of my favorite Doom stories is Simonson's take on the character, when Doc comes back from a time-travelling adventure and reveals that for a lot of his recent history it was a Doombot who had assumed the Doom identity. With one word he takes out both the fake Doom and Kristoff and reestablishes himself as the rightful lord of Latveria.
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> Doom will always be Marvel's greatest villain. Any other contender to the throne will have to go up against Victor. No flip flopping back and forth like Magneto or massive overexposure combined with bizarre characterization like the Green Goblin. Doom's the real deal, and he laughs at Richards, Stark and Pym as they wage their little Civil War.
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> HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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> Doc Sycophant...I mean Doc Shallot
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jay




> Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the Earth's greatest villian?

One of those would always be great, and a thing to be encouraged. What Doom really needs, however, isn't a "makeover." He needs to be gotten out of the hands of hack writers like Mark Waid and, more recently, Reginald Hudlin (much of what Waid wrote with the character simply needs to be erased from existence). Even Brubaker, whose BOOKS OF DOOM was one of the best Doom stories in years, has the Doc consorting with the Red Skull over in CAPTAIN AMERICA--as un-Doomlike a thing as one could imagine.

Erase Waid's rape of the character and get Doom into some competent hands. He won't need to "reestablish" anything--he'll just be the greatest, as he always has.


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Spiffy




> > > Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the Earth's greatest villian ? Or are you interested in a new bad guy going for the title ?
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> > I want to see Dr Doom as a serious threat that he once was.
> > And since he was part of the Arthurian trip that was the Genesis of Civil War ( according to Civil War : confession) i would like to see his opinion on the whole matter.

He also talked about it somewhat in an otherwise crappy issue of Black Panther, I believe.


> I don't think it can be classified as his complete opinion on the whole matter, but he does sort of sound off on some of the events of CW, at least as it pertains to Reed Richards in the latest issue of the FF -
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BlakGard




> Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the
> Earth's greatest villian?

He does not need a makeover, but he does need a major storyline to reestablish himself as Earth's second greatest villain†. He hasn't really done anything major in a long, long time.

> Or are you interested in a new bad guy going for the title ?

Never! And no more of this Reed masquerading as Doom either.

† -- Our Lord Magneto is the greatest! :-@
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TC




> Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the Earth's greatest villian ? Or are you interested in a new bad guy going for the title ?

Only if you missed Waid's entire run. Otherwise, his place is well assured.


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BYRNER




> Does Doom need a major story line to reestablish himself a the Earth's greatest villian ? Or are you interested in a new bad guy going for the title ?


I would love it if Marvel would just get rid of that ridiculous skirt that Dr. Doom wears.


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