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Tiger Shark and I are, and have always been, big fans of Miss Rita, the female Yellowjacket. Well, I stumbled upon something while working up one of my bio pages about Rita:

BEHIND THE SCENES of GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY #28-29 with Jim Valentino:
Due to an increasing workload from the formation of Image and the fact that my editor and I were not getting along (he had told me that in his opinion, the colorist was more important to the book than I was). I requested that after this issue I step down as artist and continue to write the book so that I could finish my storyline. My editor then requested me to send in one year’s worth of plots. Not trusting my job security after the comment above, I sent in bogus plots that Liefeld and I had cooked up in a day’s worth of brainstorming. This is why, although credited, I have a hard time counting issues GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY #28-29 as part of my run. The two issues, as I originally envisioned them, would have had the Guardians face off against the Masters of Evil, albeit a different team of villains than the losers I was saddled with (I believe the only characters I received that I requested were the Absorbing Man and Yellowjacket II, whom I did intend to join the team). The plan called for Yellowjacket to betray the Masters and side with the Guardians, and for the team to strand Vance at Avengers Mansion and take off into space. I also planned to have an appearance by the New Warriors within these two issues (thus getting Major Victory and Marvel Boy—the two Vance Astros—together). As it was, I turned in a lackluster script for issue 28 and a barebones plot for 29. Shortly thereafter, I was relieved of my duties on the book.


Then, Jim talks about what he would have done with Rita from Guardians of the Galaxy#30 up to #51!

In GUARDIANS #35-36, Rita would have met Killraven, an attraction would have formed between them and Killraven would have accompanied her and the Guardians back to the 31st Century! In fact, Valentino planned to make it turn out that Killraven was actually the son of Franklin Richards, thus tying his legacy to Marvel’s first family.

After GUARDIANS #35-36, Killraven and Yellowjacket would have quit the Guardians and run off together to explore the vast universe of the 31st Century. So, Rita would never have gone home to 20th Century Earth.

Meanwhile, Jim had plans to kill off Vance in #50's big issue, even to the point of showing a body! In his own words: While Vance’s death would shock and disappoint many faithful readers my feeling was that the character had come full circle, becoming the man he had always wanted to be. His death would create a renewed purpose in both teams to live up--not only to his ideals and examples, but also to those of the man he admired most, Captain America.


Full details about Jim's plans for the Guardians of the Galaxy had he continued on with the title can be found here:

http://www.imagecomics.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=144&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30


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Attok12




After GUARDIANS #50, Killraven and Yellowjacket would have quit the Guardians and run off together to explore the vast universe of the 31st Century. So, Rita would never have gone home to 20th Century Earth.



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Tiger Shark




> After GUARDIANS #50, Killraven and Yellowjacket would have quit the Guardians and run off together to explore the vast universe of the 31st Century. So, Rita would never have gone home to 20th Century Earth.
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QRG




I found it curious that Kurt Busiek never brought Rita back when he sorted out The Crossing in Avengers Forever. Seems to me she would have been a good candidate for the Thunderbolts at that time.

According to AF, Immortus was only intending to distract the Avengers (with a terrible storyline, lol) and didn't want to kill them.

So it would have made sense for him to have Space Phantom versions of not just Mantis, but Gilgamesh and Rita as well. They were, after all,
three past Avengers that the current Avengers didn't have regular
contact with (Gilgamesh went back to the Eternals, Mantis was in space,
and Rita was in the distant future). So it's not like the Avengers
would be able to immediately confirm that they were doppelgangers (and since the whole thing was meant to be a diversion, it didn't matter if
the Avengers later found out they weren't the real deal).

Since Immortus is a time-traveler himself, he could have known Rita was
coming back through time and "bumped" her trip-- making her arrive a couple of years later than she intended (like around the time AF was going on). Then the Rita from The Crossing would have been revealed to be a doppelganger just like Mantis.

-QRG




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zeus




> I found it curious that Kurt Busiek never brought Rita back when he sorted out The Crossing in Avengers Forever. Seems to me she would have been a good candidate for the Thunderbolts at that time.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember Screaming Mimi/Songbird being a second choice to Yellowjacket II. I can't remember, though, why Kurt either didn't get or decided against Rita...


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Attok12




> > I found it curious that Kurt Busiek never brought Rita back when he sorted out The Crossing in Avengers Forever. Seems to me she would have been a good candidate for the Thunderbolts at that time.
>
> Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember Screaming Mimi/Songbird being a second choice to Yellowjacket II. I can't remember, though, why Kurt either didn't get or decided against Rita...

He decided against using Rita for the T-Bolts because he didn't want to go through all the trouble of explaining how he brought her back to life. Plus, he likely figured no one wanted to be reminded of the Crossing. Personally, I loved the Crossing very much, as did my friend Tiger Shark, so I would have enjoyed seeing Rita in the Thunderbolts. Although, maybe it was better she didn't join after all. I tremble at the thought of what Ellis would do to her, if he used her at all. *gah*


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Bob Harras had something planned for Yellowjacket, something other than just her apparent demise. That strange armor she wore at the beginning of AVENGERS: THE CROSSING was the biggest clue. It looked nothing like her costume, which she wore when she stepped into the time stream to go back home in GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY #60 (which was published only a few months prior to the Crossing issue, well after the plot of the Crossing was crafted.). I suspect that Rita made a pit stop prior to the beginning of AVENGERS: THE CROSSING and obtained the armor during some "lost" adventure that Harras/Kavanagh would have written had the crapfest that was HEROES REBORN not derailed the whole thing.

The potential for Rita to still be alive is right there, waiting for a writer to take interest. The Rita we saw killed could have been a Space Phantom, or we could see Rita pop up in the present prior to her death and have adventures until it was time to send her back to her death (sort of like the Mar-Vell situation).

If you're interested, I wrote a fanfic story called YELLOWJACKET: THE CROSSING, wherein I brought Rita back to life....and yet killed her off at the same time. You can read it here:

http://www.freewebs.com/scarletspotlight/yellowjacket.htm


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Tiger Shark




> I found it curious that Kurt Busiek never brought Rita back when he sorted out The Crossing in Avengers Forever. Seems to me she would have been a good candidate for the Thunderbolts at that time.
>
> According to AF, Immortus was only intending to distract the Avengers (with a terrible storyline, lol) and didn't want to kill them.
>
> So it would have made sense for him to have Space Phantom versions of not just Mantis, but Gilgamesh and Rita as well. They were, after all,
> three past Avengers that the current Avengers didn't have regular
> contact with (Gilgamesh went back to the Eternals, Mantis was in space,
> and Rita was in the distant future). So it's not like the Avengers
> would be able to immediately confirm that they were doppelgangers (and since the whole thing was meant to be a diversion, it didn't matter if
> the Avengers later found out they weren't the real deal).
>
> Since Immortus is a time-traveler himself, he could have known Rita was
> coming back through time and "bumped" her trip-- making her arrive a couple of years later than she intended (like around the time AF was going on). Then the Rita from The Crossing would have been revealed to be a doppelganger just like Mantis.
>
> -QRG
>
>


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Tiger Shark




..it could have merely been a timestream variant Rita who died (look at all the variant Kangs who were created by his time-hopping habit). I loved that costume she was wearing.

Anyway, we need to start a Rita DeMara Appreciation Society and get Rita revived! I'll picket outside of Marvel's NYC offices, since I'm here.

And the Melter will be next!


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Tiger Shark




...Luna, Mantis, Thor, Kang, Century (was that his name?), Wanda looking like Wanda again, the little boy who kept appearing to Crystal and Pierto...the strange door in the basement...yowza. It had everything.


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Attok12




....in bringing Rita back is the fact that Pym is using the Yellowjacket identity right now, so they won't bother trying to bring Rita back. What they need to do is put Pym back in his Goliath identity, which could be a way to honor the fallen Bill Foster, thereby leaving the YJ identity where it belongs -- with Rita.


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Tuk the Caveboy was going to be linked to the Inhumans by Roger Stern in his MARVEL UNIVERSE series, but alas, it never came to pass. That way, Tuk would have likely been the Tuc seen in the Crossing. Of course, there would have to be some time travel involved, placing Crystal (and possibly the father) in the past circa caveman days, where she would have perished at the hands of other, more violent cavemen (from what I read about Tuk the Caveboy's past, his mother was killed that way). Poor Crystal....that would have been a horrible way for her to go, stuck and murdered in the past.

That strange door in the basement was a great mystery, having started in AVENGERS #375 when Ute the Watcher (from the Proctor story) inadvertantly replaced the ruined mansion with Kang's alternate reality one. Ah, the Crossing....


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zeus




>What they need to do is put Pym back in his Goliath identity, which >could be a way to honor the fallen Bill Foster, thereby leaving the >YJ identity where it belongs -- with Rita.

Or they could put him back in his "Dr. Pym, Scientific Adventurer" get-up, since it's been the one to make the most sense for him ever since he adopted it in West Coast Avengers. It's also his only truly unique identity.


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...and as Yellowjacket, he certainly was no prize during Civil War.

One way or the other, I think we'll see Rita return (especially now that Captain Mar-vell and Bucky have both resurrected).

McDuffie would probably be a great writer to resurrect her, or Chris Claremont, Mike Carey, Giffen, Pak, or even Brubaker.

I wouldn't trust her resurrection to Bendis, however, for anything.


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zeus




Pym once again rocked, and was a distinctive hero.

> ...and as Yellowjacket, he certainly was no prize during Civil War.
>
> One way or the other, I think we'll see Rita return (especially now that Captain Mar-vell and Bucky have both resurrected).
>
I wouldn't mind

> McDuffie would probably be a great writer to resurrect her, or Chris Claremont, Mike Carey, Giffen, Pak, or even Brubaker.
>
yup.
> I wouldn't trust her resurrection to Bendis, however, for anything.

Couldn't agree more. the story might even be passable, but there'd be no followup!


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TC




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> > I wouldn't trust her resurrection to Bendis, however, for anything.
>
> Couldn't agree more. the story might even be passable, but there'd be no followup!

Last page of book, "Holy Hannah! It's Yellowjacket!!" (big splash page)

Next issue: when teeny tiny NINJAs attack!

Next issue: More teeny NINJAS!

Last issue of the series: Now she's gone again and no one talks about it.









CyberCoyote-=^..^=-


                    
                    
Attok12




He also killed Marilla and Amanda Cheney, the fink!


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