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1. how did nick lose his eye?
2. How come he is still alive and in good shape, he is suppose to be 90!


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DavidS




> 1. how did nick lose his eye?
> 2. How come he is still alive and in good shape, he is suppose to be 90!

1) Nick received an eye injury in the War due to a grenade going off too close by (Sgt Fury 27). This was treated, but was aggravated over the years until he began using a bionic implant during the 1980s (Marvel: The Lost Generation 10). Eventually, soon after he fought the Hate Monger alongside the FF (FF 21), he received a serious injury to his eye from a gunshot during a battle with his brother Jake immediately prior to being recruited by SHIELD (Fury, 1994 one-shot). He's worn an eyepatch ever since.

2) Towards the end of World War II, Nick was wounded by a landmine and was found and treated in secret by a Berthold Sternberg. During this treatment, Sternberg gave him the Infinity Formula. Soon after the War, NIck found he was ageing rapidly and was contacted by Sternberg who told him that he would have to take a booster shot annually or Nick would age to death almost overnight. Sternberg blackmailed Nick this way every year until recently when Sternberg was killed and Nick was able to recover the formula for the booster shots for himself. (Marvel Spotlight 31)
With these booster shots, Nick is now ageing only very slowly. He has probably aged only 10-15 years since the War.
It has also been revealed in various Official Handbooks of the MU that between battlefield blood transfusions and open wound infections, traces of the infinity formula have been passed on to the other Howling Commandos to a lesser extent. The Howlers are also ageing more slowly than normal, appearing to be between 25-40 years older than they were in WWII. However, the Howlers do not need the annual booster shots. (And Cap 284 revealed that Dum Dum's red hair comes out of a bottle!)


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USAgentfan


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> > 1. how did nick lose his eye?
> > 2. How come he is still alive and in good shape, he is suppose to be 90!
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> 1) Nick received an eye injury in the War due to a grenade going off too close by (Sgt Fury 27). This was treated, but was aggravated over the years until he began using a bionic implant during the 1980s (Marvel: The Lost Generation 10). Eventually, soon after he fought the Hate Monger alongside the FF (FF 21), he received a serious injury to his eye from a gunshot during a battle with his brother Jake immediately prior to being recruited by SHIELD (Fury, 1994 one-shot). He's worn an eyepatch ever since.
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There is debate over the origin of the eye patch.

The first and most sensible explanation was provided in the Sgt Fury series years ago. This explained that Nick received a shrapnel injury that doctors would have been able to treat but would require Fury to leave the front lines for a year to rehabilitate. Not willing to do that Fury continued the war without ever having the injury treated and his eyesight deteriorated over the years until he lost it altogether.

The second explanation is in the 1994 oneshot where Fury is blinded by a muzzle flash. This oneshot is somewhat contradictory as it is and most people consider the first explanation to be canon.

I dont think Fury has any kind of bionic implant - if that were the case then why would he cover up the eye at all? His eye was last seen as far as I recall in the 1989 Fury ongoing series - its still very much in his head.


> 2) Towards the end of World War II, Nick was wounded by a landmine and was found and treated in secret by a Berthold Sternberg. During this treatment, Sternberg gave him the Infinity Formula. Soon after the War, NIck found he was ageing rapidly and was contacted by Sternberg who told him that he would have to take a booster shot annually or Nick would age to death almost overnight. Sternberg blackmailed Nick this way every year until recently when Sternberg was killed and Nick was able to recover the formula for the booster shots for himself. (Marvel Spotlight 31)
> With these booster shots, Nick is now ageing only very slowly. He has probably aged only 10-15 years since the War.
> It has also been revealed in various Official Handbooks of the MU that between battlefield blood transfusions and open wound infections, traces of the infinity formula have been passed on to the other Howling Commandos to a lesser extent. The Howlers are also ageing more slowly than normal, appearing to be between 25-40 years older than they were in WWII. However, the Howlers do not need the annual booster shots. (And Cap 284 revealed that Dum Dum's red hair comes out of a bottle!)


Nick is no longer being blackmailed. He no longer needs to take the formula due to its cumulative effect over the years.


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DavidS




> > > 1. how did nick lose his eye?
> > > 2. How come he is still alive and in good shape, he is suppose to be 90!
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> > 1) Nick received an eye injury in the War due to a grenade going off too close by (Sgt Fury 27). This was treated, but was aggravated over the years until he began using a bionic implant during the 1980s (Marvel: The Lost Generation 10). Eventually, soon after he fought the Hate Monger alongside the FF (FF 21), he received a serious injury to his eye from a gunshot during a battle with his brother Jake immediately prior to being recruited by SHIELD (Fury, 1994 one-shot). He's worn an eyepatch ever since.
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> There is debate over the origin of the eye patch.
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> The first and most sensible explanation was provided in the Sgt Fury series years ago. This explained that Nick received a shrapnel injury that doctors would have been able to treat but would require Fury to leave the front lines for a year to rehabilitate. Not willing to do that Fury continued the war without ever having the injury treated and his eyesight deteriorated over the years until he lost it altogether.
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> The second explanation is in the 1994 oneshot where Fury is blinded by a muzzle flash. This oneshot is somewhat contradictory as it is and most people consider the first explanation to be canon.
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Why is that contradictory? We know that he has had deteriorating eyesight in that eye since the war, and that event was referred to in the one-shot anyway. The muzzle flash just aggravated that injury to the point where he needed the eyepatch.

> I dont think Fury has any kind of bionic implant - if that were the case then why would he cover up the eye at all? His eye was last seen as far as I recall in the 1989 Fury ongoing series - its still very much in his head.
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It is stated quite explicitly in Marvel: Lost Generation 10 that Fury is using some sort of bionic implant.
The nature of the implant is unsaid and the only way to reconcile it, in my mind, is if it is some kind of high-tech contact lens to compensate for his deteriorating eye. I assume that the later injury was bad enough that such an implant would no longer be any use.

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> Nick is no longer being blackmailed. He no longer needs to take the formula due to its cumulative effect over the years.

I know he is no longer being blackmailed, that was cleared up in Marvel Spotlight 31 when Nick found the booster shot formula for himself after Sternberg's death. But can you give a reference for when it was shown that he no longer needs the formula? I must have missed that issue.


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TJ Burns





> > The second explanation is in the 1994 oneshot where Fury is blinded by a muzzle flash. This oneshot is somewhat contradictory as it is and most people consider the first explanation to be canon.

> Why is that contradictory? We know that he has had deteriorating eyesight in that eye since the war, and that event was referred to in the one-shot anyway. The muzzle flash just aggravated that injury to the point where he needed the eyepatch.

It's not the eyepatch bit that's the height of the contradictory stuff in that one-off, I believe, although the new bit there seems to be adding on to the history of the eyepatch just for the sake of adding on. Strangely, I believe that the recent Iron Man: Enter the Mandarin mini actually references characters from the one-shot, meaning it may still be in-continuity.

> > I dont think Fury has any kind of bionic implant - if that were the case then why would he cover up the eye at all? His eye was last seen as far as I recall in the 1989 Fury ongoing series - its still very much in his head.
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> It is stated quite explicitly in Marvel: Lost Generation 10 that Fury is using some sort of bionic implant.

Note that that doesn't mean he can see out of it, or that it wasn't in addition to the eye at all. \:\)

> The nature of the implant is unsaid and the only way to reconcile it, in my mind, is if it is some kind of high-tech contact lens to compensate for his deteriorating eye. I assume that the later injury was bad enough that such an implant would no longer be any use.

Works for me. He appeared to have some sort of similar device in an issue of the 90s War Machine series as well, in an issue-end cameo.

> > Nick is no longer being blackmailed. He no longer needs to take the formula due to its cumulative effect over the years.
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> I know he is no longer being blackmailed, that was cleared up in Marvel Spotlight 31 when Nick found the booster shot formula for himself after Sternberg's death. But can you give a reference for when it was shown that he no longer needs the formula? I must have missed that issue.

Nick Fury vs. SHIELD mini mentions that the formula itself isn't enough to keep Fury going anymore, but it has mutated into its current compound by something in Fury's blood. So, there's that. \:\)


TJB


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