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Feel free to include movies, cartoons, video games, comics, and pro Wrestling in your answer.

Darth Vader was high up on my list, of course. I was also a fan of Trigon, demonic father of Raven of the Teen Titans. I also liked the Brothers of Destruction, Kane and the Undertaker.







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Hmmm. When it comes to professional wrestling Jake The Snake Roberts was great. Randy "Macho Man" Savage was also great. The Hart Foundation were cool, too.

As for movies...

Vader is a good choice. Between Empire and Jedi he had some decent depth to add to his evil.

Hans Gruber from Die Hard was an awesome bad guy. Alan Rickman was menacing as hell but he also had a sense of humor as well. Gary Busey's Mister Joshua from Lethal Weapon was awesomely nuts.

Dick Jones and Clarence Bodicker from Robocop! Two of the best bad guys in cinema, bar none.

Nevelle Sinclair from The Rocketeer. Timothy Dalton is an underrated actor and he is great as the Errol Flynn inspired character who is secretly a Nazi agent.

Simon Phoenix! Anyone remember Demolition Man? Oh man, Wesley Snipes is gloriously over the top.

Face/Off. John Travolta and Nicolas Cage were both great in this film, portraying both super villain Caster Troy and the FBI agent who switches faces with him. It's like the two were trying to see who could over-act whom.

The Matrix's Agent Smith! Hugo Weaving's delivery is so awesome in this film. "Misssster Anderson..."

"Son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod!" Gawd, Terrence Stamp is every kind of awesome. \:\)

Anyone remember The Running Man? Richard Dawson's Killian was oh-so-slimy and funny.

Finally, when it comes to comics I think John Byrne's Doctor Doom and Lex Luthor were both at their best. Doom was outstandingly menacing and one of my favorite Superman moments was his first exposure to post-Crisis kryptonite in Luthor's ring, with the bastard holding the hero by his cape, flashing his fist in the helpless hero's face and telling him to "Now get out of my office before I call a cop!"

Oh, and Chris Claremont's Magneto at this time was amazing. Watching him go from villain to anti-hero was great to read. Honestly? I wish Magneto had died before he became a bad guy again. Watching him "turn heel" once more cheapened the character, in my opinion. I would have liked to have seen Xavier die and Magneto permanently replace him as head of the mutant school. Since then we've seen both characters put through the ringer.


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Darth Vader for sure as well as Jabba the Hut and Emperor Palpatine.

The Joker in the 1989 Batman movie and on the 90s cartoon series. Mr. Freeze I remember really being great as well.

The Terminator in the original film.

Newman from Seinfeld.

Magneto, The Shredder, Venom, Apocalypse, Mr. Sinister. Lex Luthor in the comics and on the Adventure of Lois and Clark TV show.

For wrestling I'd have to say Vince McMahon (circa '98 or '99) and his son Shane O' Mac. I loved rooting against them especially.

Mr. Burns on the Simpsons.

Oh and Endless Mike on the Adventures of Pete and Pete is probably at the top of the list.

I feel like I'm missing somebody, there's so many choices.


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    Darth Vader for sure as well as Jabba the Hut and Emperor Palpatine.



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    The Joker in the 1989 Batman movie and on the 90s cartoon series. Mr. Freeze I remember really being great as well.



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    The Terminator in the original film.



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    Newman from Seinfeld.



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    Magneto, The Shredder, Venom, Apocalypse, Mr. Sinister. Lex Luthor in the comics and on the Adventure of Lois and Clark TV show.



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    For wrestling I'd have to say Vince McMahon (circa '98 or '99) and his son Shane O' Mac. I loved rooting against them especially.



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    Mr. Burns on the Simpsons.



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    Oh and Endless Mike on the Adventures of Pete and Pete is probably at the top of the list.



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    I feel like I'm missing somebody, there's so many choices.



After reading Katefan's post I would have to add Jake the Snake Roberts and Alan Rickman in Die Hard, but even more so Alan Rickman in the 1991 Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves film where he played the Sheriff of Nottingham. One of my favorite performances by a an actor as a bad-guy.

Robert Deniro in Heat and also John Malkovich in In the Line of Fire!



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    After reading Katefan's post I would have to add Jake the Snake Roberts and Alan Rickman in Die Hard, but even more so Alan Rickman in the 1991 Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves film where he played the Sheriff of Nottingham. One of my favorite performances by a an actor as a bad-guy.


Absolutely I love Prince of Thieves especially Alan Rickman's performance.

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    Hmmm. When it comes to professional wrestling Jake The Snake Roberts was great. Randy "Macho Man" Savage was also great. The Hart Foundation were cool, too.



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    As for movies...



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    Vader is a good choice. Between Empire and Jedi he had some decent depth to add to his evil.



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    Face/Off. John Travolta and Nicolas Cage were both great in this film, portraying both super villain Caster Troy and the FBI agent who switches faces with him. It's like the two were trying to see who could over-act whom.



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    The Matrix's Agent Smith! Hugo Weaving's delivery is so awesome in this film. "Misssster Anderson..."



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    "Son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod!" Gawd, Terrence Stamp is every kind of awesome. \:\)



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    Oh, and Chris Claremont's Magneto at this time was amazing. Watching him go from villain to anti-hero was great to read. Honestly? I wish Magneto had died before he became a bad guy again. Watching him "turn heel" once more cheapened the character, in my opinion. I would have liked to have seen Xavier die and Magneto permanently replace him as head of the mutant school. Since then we've seen both characters put through the ringer.


I'll definitely second all of these.

I'm a big Star Wars fan. I love Superman II mainly because I love the villains especially Terrence Stamp's Zod. The First Matrix was fantastic, I was so disappointed when they did more and they weren't as good and it took the shine off the original. Like how disappointing the Star Wars prequels were.

And yes, Magneto was such an interesting character at this point how they were able to take the series main villain and show that he wasn't all bad and that he wasn't beyond redemption. Dr. Doom when written well is the same way. And it is definitely the mark of great writing when you can show that a super villain isn't just a mustache twirling Snidely Whiplash that he is a real person that looks himself in the mirror everyday and really thinks that he is the good guy and that his ends (however evil they seem to others justify his means.

Oh and you forgot Kahn!!!!!!!!!!! I love Star Trek 2.

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    The Matrix's Agent Smith! Hugo Weaving's delivery is so awesome in this film. "Misssster Anderson..."


Oh man! Absolutely!


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    "Son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod!" Gawd, Terrence Stamp is every kind of awesome. \:\)


Another great choice!


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    Oh, and Chris Claremont's Magneto at this time was amazing. Watching him go from villain to anti-hero was great to read. Honestly? I wish Magneto had died before he became a bad guy again.


Me too. Once a villain has been around for decades, what else is he going to do? Try to conquer the world for the 46th time? Some sort of redemption is the only interesting thing to do with the guy. The trouble with Magneto is, some writers would make him not merely a criminal but needlessly cruel and petty. Portrayals like that will make a redemption story seem fake. I prefer Magneto (and Doctor Doom) when written as honorable men.






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      After reading Katefan's post I would have to add Jake the Snake Roberts and Alan Rickman in Die Hard, but even more so Alan Rickman in the 1991 Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves film where he played the Sheriff of Nottingham. One of my favorite performances by a an actor as a bad-guy.



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    Absolutely I love Prince of Thieves especially Alan Rickman's performance.



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Agreed. It's one of my favorite films. Everybody says well Kevin Costner isn't British enough. I thought he and everyone else did a phenomenal job.



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Oh, how could I have forgotten Khaaaaaaaaan?!


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        After reading Katefan's post I would have to add Jake the Snake Roberts and Alan Rickman in Die Hard, but even more so Alan Rickman in the 1991 Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves film where he played the Sheriff of Nottingham. One of my favorite performances by a an actor as a bad-guy.

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    Agreed. It's one of my favorite films. Everybody says well Kevin Costner isn't British enough. I thought he and everyone else did a phenomenal job.


I never missed the accent. And it would have been awful if he had tried.

But if I was British it might have bothered me.

It would be like if Bond was played by someone who wasn't British.

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        Agreed. It's one of my favorite films. Everybody says well Kevin Costner isn't British enough. I thought he and everyone else did a phenomenal job.



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    I never missed the accent. And it would have been awful if he had tried.



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Yeah I definitely wouldn't have liked it if he had attempted a British accent, but again I am an American.




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    Yeah I definitely wouldn't have liked it if he had attempted a British accent, but again I am an American.


I wanted the accent - but really what I wanted was Errol Flynn or someone who made me think of him. Costner didn't, and unfortunately, because of that, I couldn't enjoy the movie. It isn't just the accent. Errol Flynn is dashing. Everything about him says swashbuckler. Costner is low key, understated. He just isn't cut from the same mold as Errol Flynn.






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Excellent points regarding Costner. I liked the movie when it first came out but I haven't watched it in years and I don't miss it at all. It just hasn't aged well.

Also, looking back at it I feel they made too many alterations to the classic story. Where is the archery competition? Where is the Norman oppression over Saxons? Where is Prince John? I respect that the Crusades play a larger role in the story and I think adding Morgan Freeman was a good thing, as he makes for a far better sidekick than Will Scarlet, but the movie is just weak overall.


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    Feel free to include movies, cartoons, video games, comics, and pro Wrestling in your answer.



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    Darth Vader was high up on my list, of course. I was also a fan of Trigon, demonic father of Raven of the Teen Titans. I also liked the Brothers of Destruction, Kane and the Undertaker.



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The Sphinx I & II from Marvel (particularly the female one)
Loki
Baron Helmut Zemo
Moonstone
Fixer
Leila Davis
The Mad Thinker
Agamemnon from the Hulk
Gul Dukat from DS9
Garak from DS9
Weyounn from DS9
Brunt from DS9
Gaila from DS9
The Female Changeling from DS9
The Duras sisters from TNG
Lore from TNG
Megatron from Transformers
The Liquidator from Darkwing Duck
Krang from TMNT
Londo from Babylon 5 (one of only two characters I can stand on that show)
Mr. Burns from the Simpsons
Nenora from Silver Surfer
The Folding Circle from the New Warriors
The Upstarts from the X-Men books
The Jury from Venom
Two Face from the Batman Animated Series
Mr. Freeze from the Batman Animated Series
Ra's al Ghul from the Batman Animated Series
HARDAC from the Batman Animated Series (loved the voice acting on that one)
Clay Face from the Batman Animated Series
Poison Ivy from the Batman Animated Series
Demona from Gargoyles
Trigon
Sinestro
Helena Cassadine from General Hospital
Vivian Alamain from Days of Our Lives
Kimberly from Melrose Place
Vince McMahon (honestly I find him way more entertaining than the wrestlers)
Emperor Palpatine
Dark Queen from Battletoads
Sigma from Mega Man X




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Jason Vorhees
Crossbones from Captain America
Venom from Spider-Man
Mark Hamill as the Joker, Hobgoblin and the Trickster
Alex Krycek and Eugene Tooms from the X-Files
Ricky from Better Off Dead
Biff from Back To The Future
Rowdy Roddy Piper


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From comics I was a huge fan of-

Venom- Probably my favorite Spider-Man villain. He was Spider-Man's scariest villian IMO. He knew Spider-Man's secret identity(and would hang out around his loved ones), didn't cause his spider-sense to go off, had all of his powers, and was stronger than him. Talk about a dangerous combination. The danger and stakes always seemed higher when he came around.

Thanos- Can't believe no one has mentioned him yet. I love Infinity Gauntlet and read to pieces as a kid.

Doomsday- I also read the Death of Superman to pieces, and I enjoyed Superman/Doomsday: Hunter/Prey as well.

Apocalypse, Mister Sinister, and Magneto- My favorite X-Men villains in the 80s and 90s.


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    Darth Vader was high up on my list, of course.


Yep, he is very high on my list too.





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Nice one!  I would never have thought of him.  I loved him on that show





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    Venom- Probably my favorite Spider-Man villain. He was Spider-Man's scariest villian IMO. He knew Spider-Man's secret identity(and would hang out around his loved ones), didn't cause his spider-sense to go off, had all of his powers, and was stronger than him. Talk about a dangerous combination. The danger and stakes always seemed higher when he came around.


For some odd reason I didn't like him. Your points are well taken. Liking him would make a lot of sense. I think I just didn't like his look.


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    Thanos- Can't believe no one has mentioned him yet. I love Infinity Gauntlet and read to pieces as a kid.


Definitely one of the greatest villains of all.

Which brings to mind - Darkseid! Sure, he was created in the 70s, but one of his greatest story lines was published in 1982: the Great Darkness, starring the Legion of Super-Heroes.


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    Apocalypse, Mister Sinister, and Magneto- My favorite X-Men villains in the 80s and 90s.


I'm an Apocalypse fan. I love his survival of the fittest theme and his Four Horsemen motif.







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Yup, I'm a fan of his too. Sadly, I don't feel he's been written properly in quite a while. But under Gruenwald he was intriguing.


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    Biff from Back To The Future


Really? What did you like (or love to hate) about him?







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    Jason Vorhees
    Crossbones from Captain America
    Venom from Spider-Man
    Mark Hamill as the Joker, Hobgoblin and the Trickster
    Alex Krycek and Eugene Tooms from the X-Files
    Ricky from Better Off Dead
    Biff from Back To The Future
    Rowdy Roddy Piper



How could I have forgotten Biff? Seriously I can't believe I forgot him with how many times I've seen the Back to the Future movies. Oh and Kryceck and the Smoking Man without a doubt are two more I forgot.



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    The Sphinx I & II from Marvel (particularly the female one)


What was a cool 80s or 90s story with the female one?


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    Baron Helmut Zemo
    Moonstone
    Fixer


We all knew these three would be on your list.


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    Leila Davis


I had to look her up. The new Beetle.

You know, I have to admit, when the old Beetle became Mach Whatever he became less interesting from a powers perspective. Did Leila Davis retain the stretchable super-strong suction cups? I used to love those.


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    The Mad Thinker


Did Byrne use him in the Fantastic Four?


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    Agamemnon from the Hulk


Were you a Peter David Smart Hulk fan?


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    The Duras sisters from TNG
    Lore from TNG


You made me think of the Borg Queen, who first appeared in 1996 (she's on topic here!) in the film Star Trek: First Contact. I should add her to my list.


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    Megatron from Transformers


Definitely. Whatever anyone may think about any other aspect of the Transformers, one thing is indisputable: Megatron is a classic villain.


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    Londo from Babylon 5 (one of only two characters I can stand on that show)


And the other character you can stand is G'Kar, right? Those two were my favorites hands down.


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    Ra's al Ghul from the Batman Animated Series


My favorite Bat villain from any era and the only reason I enjoyed Batman Begins (2005 so off topic here).

You listed quite a few from the Batman Animated series. Clearly you were a fan.


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    Trigon


Hurray!


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    Helena Cassadine from General Hospital
    Vivian Alamain from Days of Our Lives
    Kimberly from Melrose Place


I used to occasionally watch soap operas. I only liked them for the villains. Victor from Young and the Restless was classic.







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    Yup, I'm a fan of his too. Sadly, I don't feel he's been written properly in quite a while. But under Gruenwald he was intriguing.



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      Biff from Back To The Future



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    Really? What did you like (or love to hate) about him?


I love Biff too. Just such a great dickhead character. I love those movies in general.

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      Venom- Probably my favorite Spider-Man villain. He was Spider-Man's scariest villian IMO. He knew Spider-Man's secret identity(and would hang out around his loved ones), didn't cause his spider-sense to go off, had all of his powers, and was stronger than him. Talk about a dangerous combination. The danger and stakes always seemed higher when he came around.



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    For some odd reason I didn't like him. Your points are well taken. Liking him would make a lot of sense. I think I just didn't like his look.



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      Thanos- Can't believe no one has mentioned him yet. I love Infinity Gauntlet and read to pieces as a kid.



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    Definitely one of the greatest villains of all.



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    Which brings to mind - Darkseid! Sure, he was created in the 70s, but one of his greatest story lines was published in 1982: the Great Darkness, starring the Legion of Super-Heroes.


Venom, Thanos and Darkseid are all villains that should only be used one every 10 years or so so they don't lose their impact. Over use them and it dilutes their danger factor.

They can be seen to be pulling the strings in between major appearances and manipulating events.

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    Really? What did you like (or love to hate) about him?


I was going to say the generic douchebag rival/villain in all the teen romance comedies of the 80's, but then I went specific and chose Biff. He's just such a jerk, and probably the most well known.




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I liked the Cigarette Smoking Man, but the more they fleshed him out, the less intriguing he was. Krychek was always cool, though.


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Yeah, Venom was great back then. His appearances were like the early Doc Ock appearances, with the stakes getting higher and more personal every time. He did suffer from over exposure and some poor ideas in his mini-series, but I enjoyed him in Spider-Man.
When he and Spider-Man had their truce, it didn't seem to sit right as it didn't seem like Spider-Man and it changed Venom's motivation to the Lethal Protector. However, I've been reading some of Venom's other appearances in Darkhawk and Iron Man, and, I have to say, I like them. Replacin Spider-Man with these other heroes makes the team-ups with Venom work better. Their is still the mistrust, but not the personal animosity that should prevent Spider-Man and Venom from ever working together.

Thanos was great, too. By the 90's, I had cut back on all my comic buying except Spider-Man books and the Fantastic Four, but I always picked up the Infinity books. The scene in which Warlock orchestrates the Silver Surfer almost snatching the Infinity Guantlet from Thanos is so tense. Great comic book writing.


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    Did Byrne use him in the Fantastic Four?


Roger Stern used him very effectively in the Amazing Spider-Man.


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That was definitely a common theme for the X-Files. The more you found out, the less you were interested.




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In no particular order:
- Darth Vader
- Hans Gruber from Die Hard
- Mr. Burns
- Dr. Doom/Thanos/Magneto (although Magneto was a bit wishy-washy in the 80's)
- The Hobgoblin gets his own entry because he was cool.
- J.R. Ewing
- Leland Palmer
- Boss Hogg & Roscoe
- KAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHNNNNNN!!!!!
- Aliens from the Alien movies
- Dick Vernon from the Breakfast Club
- Ursula from The Little Mermaid
- Lauren Bacall in Murder on the Orient Express
- Frankenfurter in Rocky Horror Picture Show
- Aemon Goth in Schindler's List
- Al Capone in The Untouchables
- The Clown from IT
- Regan in the Exorcist
- Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs
- Tom Beringer in Platoon
- the Drill Sgt in Full Metal Jacket
- Dennis Hopper in Blue Velvet
- Jack in The Shining
- The Blair Witch
- Robert Patrick in Terminator 2
- Keyser Soze
- Jerry Lundegaard
- Kevin Spacey in Se7en










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