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Lois & Clark weren't the only ones.

In 1981 we had Greatest American Hero.

In 1985 we had Misfits of Science, if you count that.

In 1988 we had Superboy.

In 1990 we had the Flash.

Of course in 1993 we had Lois & Clark.

In 1997 we had Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Am I forgetting any?

Which of these were you a fan of?






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    In 1981 we had Greatest American Hero.


I loved this show at he time, but I'd be hard pressed to remember anything about it now besides the costume and the theme song.


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    In 1985 we had Misfits of Science, if you count that.


Never heard of it.


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    In 1988 we had Superboy.


Somehow I missed this as well though I am aware it was on.


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    In 1990 we had the Flash.


Loved it. Watched it again a couple of years ago. Lots of fun. My son, a fan of the CW Flash show, has started watching it.


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    Of course in 1993 we had Lois & Clark.


I would watch this off and on but would like to give it another go some time.


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    In 1997 we had Buffy the Vampire Slayer.


I remember watch several of the first season eps, but that was it.


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    Am I forgetting any?



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    Which of these were you a fan of?





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    I loved this show at the time, but I'd be hard pressed to remember anything about it now besides the costume and the theme song.


He was a bumbler with his heart in the right place. Last guy in the world who would have seen himself as a superhero. He had Superman's power set except I don't remember if he had heat vision or super senses.


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      In 1985 we had Misfits of Science, if you count that.


    Never heard of it.


I've heard of it but I never watched it.


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      In 1988 we had Superboy.


    Somehow I missed this as well though I am aware it was on.


I missed this too and don't know how, except to say my wife at the time wasn't into such shows.


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      In 1990 we had the Flash.


    Loved it. Watched it again a couple of years ago. Lots of fun. My son, a fan of the CW Flash show, has started watching it.


I have it on DVD. I've watched every episode. A little too corny and campy at times. This was especially disappointing because it didn't need to be. There was plenty of serious drama, high speed action and non-corny humor. The campy stuff could easily have been left out.


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    I would watch this off and on but would like to give it another go some time.


My wife at the time was into this show so I saw most of it. This is the only Superman depiction in any medium that ever made me care about the Lois and Clark romance, or about Lois at all. The comic book Lois has never meant anything to me.


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      In 1997 we had Buffy the Vampire Slayer.


    I remember watching several of the first season eps, but that was it.


The first three seasons (which coincidentally are all on topic here) were by far the best. When Angel left and the gang graduated high school, the whole dynamic changed. I still watched it, but with a sense of loss.






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    In 1981 we had Greatest American Hero.

♥ Robert Culp -- not that way... but close


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    In 1985 we had Misfits of Science, if you count that.

I don't know why you wouldn't count it. Courteney Cox might not want to count it on her resume, but...

Hey, it had Kevin "Predator" Hall unmasked!

Not winning any awards, and did deserve only one season, but certainly a fun series for kids.


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    In 1988 we had Superboy.

Mmm... Stacy Haiduk...


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    In 1990 we had the Flash.

This deserved more than one season. Still angry about that.


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    Of course in 1993 we had Lois & Clark.

Never much of a fan, but I can see why many were.


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    In 1997 we had Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

We're still a Buffy family.


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    Am I forgetting any?

Lots!

Incredible Hulk ran into the 80s (ending 1982), and then had three made-for-tv movies.

Manimal (1983) - I'd consider a guy turning into animals running around saving people a superhero.

Zorro and Son (1983) - oh dear gosh, why do I remember this? Disney product. Henry Darrow as Zorro. I forget who the son was. It lasted about 5 episodes.

Greatest American Heroine (1986) - tv movie; potential spin-off that failed

The Spirit (1987) - tv movie with Sam J. Jones, Nana Visitor

Zorro (1990) - ran on The Family Channel for a few years

Swamp Thing series (1990-1993)

Power Pack had a pilot in 1991, which has aired a few times.

Human Target (1992) - 7 or so episodes, then dust

Power Rangers (1993-????) - I would certainly consider them superheroes.

RoboCop: The Series (1994-1995) - as bad as it was, it was better than the recent remake

Generation X (1996) - tv movie

Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation (1997) - and the female turtle, Venus De Milo!

Night Man (1997-1999) - Jazz saxophonist superhero? You bet I was a fan. Coolest car since KITT, imo (Plymouth Prowler).

Nick Fury (1998) - tv movie

The Crow series (1998) - forgot the subtitle

Angel - just squeaks by, starting in 1999.

Argument could be made for Herc/Xena being superheroes.

I think a case could be made for Knight Rider, as well. But even if not him, you'd certainly have to count that other 80s superhero with an awesome car-- the Tron-inspired Automan!




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Thanks for using my banner! I love the Lois and Clark tv show.

To be honest I'm not a big fan of superhero tv shows. I enjoyed some superhero cartoons as kid, but I don't really like to watch any of those now, and when it comes to live action superhero shows, Lois and Clark was actually the only one I liked until Netflix's Daredevil came out.





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(1980) Flash Gordon
(1980) Superman II
(1981) Condorman
(1982) Swamp Thing
(1983) Superman III
(1984) Supergirl
(1984) The Toxic Avenger
(1986) Howard the Duck
(1987) Superman IV: The Quest For Peace
(1989) Batman
(1989) The Punisher
(1989) Return of the Swamp Thing
(1989) The Toxic Avenger Part II
(1989) The Toxic Avenger Part III
(1990) Captain America
(1990) Darkman
(1990) Dick Tracy
(1990) Super Force (TV series)
(1990) Swamp Thing (TV series)
(1990) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
(1991) The Rocketeer
(1991) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II
(1992) Batman Returns
(1993) The Meteor Man
(1993) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III
(1994) Blankman
(1994) The Crow
(1994) M.A.N.T.I.S. (TV series)
(1994) The Mask
(1994) The Shadow
(1995) Batman Forever
(1995) Black Scorpion
(1995) Darkman II: The Return of Durant
(1995) Judge Dredd
(1995) Tank Girl
(1996) The Crow: City of Angels
(1996) Darkman III: Die Darkman Die
(1996) The Phantom
(1996) Vampirella
(1997) Batman & Robin
(1997) Black Scorpion II
(1997) Spawn
(1997) Steel
(1998) Blade
(1998) The Crow: Stairway to Heaven (TV series)
(1998) The Mask of Zorro
(1999) Mystery Men


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How could I have missed these films? I guess I missed them because I didn't have Showtime.
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I hope Netflix has the films and/or especially the TV series that followed!







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They were pretty poor productions that mostly relied on T&A which is why Joan Severance was cast in the lead role. I remember the series airing on Sci-Fi Channel, I don't know if that originated on Showtime like the movies. It had a much cheaper budget and was sanitized to a PG level so it lost most of what appeal it had. It's very campy yet dark and "adult." Adam West plays a villain on the series.



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Superman II was classic, I still prefer the theatrical over the Donner cut, warts and all.

Batman is not my favorite adaption but it's pretty good and it let moviegoers take the character seriously again.

Darkman is full of cheese but a fun stylish adventure yarn.

Dick Tracy is pretty enjoyable if for nothing else the art design. But the rest is pretty good, too.

The Rocketeer is pretty much a perfect throwback to an adventure serial, I enjoy it a lot.

The Crow isn't really even a superhero, just a ghost story but very good production and enjoyable flick.

The Mask is a fantastic cartoon come to life.

I think The Mask of Zorro is probably the most solid movie on this list. Watching it again it really follows the template of the superhero origin followed by the best current Marvel movies. A-list actors, high production value, epic buildup and good writing. I never really thought of Zorro as a superhero growing up but if he's got a secret identity, a mask, a Zorro-cave hidden behind a fireplace and such, it must be.

I must be the only person who really loves Mystery Men and finds it very quotable and a hoot. It was a big bomb but I don't know why.

Blade of course was just a solid action movie and set the tone for the MCU to come.

THE BAD:

Superman IV - mostly suffered from poor production value.
TMNT sequels - way too cheesy and slapstick.
Batman & Robin - too silly for such a high budget action flick.
Vampirella - unfortunately too indie and small budget. I expected a cult movie but it was just bad.
Steel - too silly and too many Shaq jokes. Too many audience winks.



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    I think The Mask of Zorro is probably the most solid movie on this list. Watching it again it really follows the template of the superhero origin followed by the best current Marvel movies. A-list actors, high production value, epic buildup and good writing. I never really thought of Zorro as a superhero growing up but if he's got a secret identity, a mask, a Zorro-cave hidden behind a fireplace and such, it must be.


Bob Kane was surprisingly up front (even blatant) about the Zorro/Batman connection.
The Mark of Zorro and Batman

I'm baffled by heroes who don't kill yet employ swords, arrows, or guns as their main weapons. These weapons are intended for killing and can't stop an opponent any other way. They just seem a poor choice.

I presume I'm right that Zorro doesn't kill in the movie you listed?






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I'm surprised I didn't already know that. ;\)


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    I'm baffled by heroes who don't kill yet employ swords, arrows, or guns as their main weapons. These weapons are intended for killing and can't stop an opponent any other way. They just seem a poor choice.

He also uses a whip, and can strike his trademark Z into a surface with either sword or whip. I assume if his enemies are coming at him with swords he would want one of his own to block them, even if he doesn't intend on killing them.


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    I presume I'm right that Zorro doesn't kill in the movie you listed?

I don't think he does intentionally but of course being a typical Hollywood movie the villains are dispatched during the final battle, and I'm sure Zorro can be held partially responsible. I'd have to watch again but I don't remember him running his foe through with the sword or anything like that.



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    He also uses a whip, and can strike his trademark Z into a surface with either sword or whip. I assume if his enemies are coming at him with swords he would want one of his own to block them, even if he doesn't intend on killing them.


I had always thought of a whip as a deadly weapon but I've been googling it and it seems I may be overestimating the damage it would do. Certainly anything can be deadly if the victim's luck is very bad. But it seems getting whipped in the face would not necessarily kill a man, or even knock him out. I'd been under the impression a good bullwhip skillfully employed would shatter a human skull. I appear to have been mistaken.







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