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I confess I was somewhat anti-Batman in the 80s and 90s, because I didn't recognize the guy. He wasn't the hero I had known in the Bronze Age. By the end of the 90s he was finally becoming familiar to me, but as this other character, some new character who wasn't the same guy Jim Aparo and Neal Adams had drawn. But many fans strongly prefer this other guy. Thing is, they usually draw a distinction between this other guy and the 1950s and 1960s Batman, who hadn't been around since, well, the 1950s and 1960s. It's the same as with Superman. For some odd reason, many fans just don't realize that Superman and Batman in the 1970s were very different from Superman and Batman in the 1950s and 1960s. All you have to do is actually read the Bronze Age comics and you'll see it immediately.

In any case, I've highlighted Knightfall and The Killing Joke in my banner. These two stories are often cited as classic Batman stories. Are either or both of these your favorites from the 80s and 90s? Or is there some other story you want to call out as being the awesomest? There are of course the Frank Miller stories. There was A Death in the Family. There was The Son of the Demon, which even I loved, and which in fact is my personal choice as best Batman story from our era. There are No Man's Land and The Long Halloween.

What's your pick?







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Death in the Family, despite the legends that the phone poll was sabotaged by someone with an auto dialer to keep dialing the kill Robin number it was a good story.

A Lonely Place of Dying: the story that emphasized that Batman does need a Robin (at least at the time), to help him stay in control as Batman was being overly aggressive since Jason was killed. Alfred saw it and so did Nightwing.


Dark Knight Returns: an interesting look at the future of Batman, also well known for the fact that Batman does defeat Superman

Batman Year One

The Killing Joke: an excellent story and the animated movie I thought was well done. It gives an interesting possible origin of the Joker that might not be true as in that same story Joker states he likes to remember his past in multiple choice. also it was a sincere attempt on Batman's part to make peace with the Joker and help him so they don't destroy each other. also in the final panels as Joker tells that joke and Batman and Joker start laughing, as the view pans out, it is only Batman laughing and it looks like he might be strangling the Joker.

https://moviepilot.com/p/the-killing-joke-a-look-back-at-the-ambiguous-ending/4262809


Son of the Demon, and the sequel Bride of the Demon.

I try to ignore Knightfall and the era of Azbat


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Menshevik


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No doubt about it:

The Batman Adventures: Mad Love (1994)

(And yes, the Batman from B:TAS is probably my favourite Batman)


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As a kid my only memory of Batman was the Adam West show, and the Superfriends I guess. When I got into comics as a teen I didn't really get into Batman. The Burton movie was okay. I had a friend who collected some Batman comics and mostly Elseworlds. So I remember Holy Terror and The Blue, The Grey and The Bat and such.

Later on I picked up The Dark Knight Returns and Digital Justice, a pair of alternate future Batman tales that seemed like a couple more Elseworlds to me.

The Death of Superman was the big event that got me into comics in a big way. Knightfall was the next big event and I liked it. I thought Bane's plan to break every Batman villain out of Arkham and make Batman fight them all in one night and then swoop in for the kill was brilliant. Unfortunately the rest of Knightquest and the return were not as good.

Later I read Venom, the story that set up Knightfall and it was kind of good, although I always wondered how Batman could grow a foot long beard in a month locked in the Batcave. Artistic license, I guess.

Much later I read Year One and The Killing Joke. I liked those pretty well. I think I read Son of the Demon or Bride or one of those that was a pretty good Ra's story.

I never became a regular Batman reader. I collected all the Elseworlds for a long time. I followed a little bit of Batman in the JLA and such. My friend collected Robin, Nightwing and Azrael so we were always on the fringe of the Batverse. I don't know why we didn't collect the main books. Too many, maybe?

I never got into the cartoon. I'd probably like it, just never got around to it.


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    I never became a regular Batman reader. I collected all the Elseworlds for a long time. I followed a little bit of Batman in the JLA and such. My friend collected Robin, Nightwing and Azrael so we were always on the fringe of the Batverse. I don't know why we didn't collect the main books. Too many, maybe?


What was it that drew you to the Elseworlds stories?







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    I never got into the cartoon. I'd probably like it, just never got around to it.


Someone needs to shake you violently and recommend you watch it.

The Batman Animated Series is the best cartoon. I mean out of ALL cartoons ever made...that's the best one. No joke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAPFKd48ulg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgWBvRmP1bc




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I did see Mask of the Phantasm in the theater at my friend's insistence, and I remember liking it. Those are good clips, I need to watch this show.


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    What was it that drew you to the Elseworlds stories?

I don't know, I guess I like sci-fi and ridiculousness. Maybe the Bat titles were too street-level for me. But Batman vs Frankenstein, or Dracula, or Jack the Ripper? Bruce Wayne becomes Green Lantern, Kal-El becomes Batman? I liked it. I guess it was DC's version of What If, a title which ironically I never read.

I don't know if they were worth more than a single read though. If I were to go back now, I'd probably prefer to read the main Bat titles than a bunch of one-shots that didn't contribute to the main titles. But at the time it's what I liked.



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    I did see Mask of the Phantasm in the theater at my friend's insistence, and I remember liking it. Those are good clips, I need to watch this show.


It really is good.

There are some stinkers here and there (usually when Batman faces some nobodies you never heard of) but for the most part the series really stands up to this day. That two parter where Harvey Dent becomes Two Face is a masterpiece IMO. And the version of Mr. Freeze in the cartoon is way better than in the comics.





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I've never been a big reader of Batman but I did buy the Death In The Family tpb when it first came out. I think the only other storyline from the era that I bought at the time was "The Many Deaths Of The Batman". I liked both stories well enough but BatmanTAS was probably my greatest exposure to the character at the time. Maybe Batman 1989 which I saw several times.


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    I've never been a big reader of Batman but I did buy the Death In The Family tpb when it first came out. I think the only other storyline from the era that I bought at the time was "The Many Deaths Of The Batman". I liked both stories well enough but BatmanTAS was probably my greatest exposure to the character at the time. Maybe Batman 1989 which I saw several times.


I don't recall reading "The Many Deaths of the Batman" - there's a chance I might have purposely avoided it because Byrne apparently was the writer - but apparently Jim Aparo did the art and that cover looks cool so I may look into this.








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