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Iron Man Unit 007

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Subj: Beast Wars/Beast Machines
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 at 01:40:49 am EST (Viewed 292 times)

So, anyone have fond memories of these two toy commercial/cartoons?

They still look good to me as far as CGI goes, with Beast Machines being better then BW with shading in the CGI, even though the story in Beast Machines was getting a bit too spiritual for a TF cartoon.

Things mentioned in BW/BM that were not really followed up on in the cartoons and I consider botcon comics to be interesting but still along the lines of fan fiction and not really canon, imo:

1. The Great War ended 3 centuries before these characters crashed on the planet to start the Beast Wars. We know the Autobots won with the aid of the human race....but that is it. What year did the war end? It clearly didn't end when Vector Sigma arranged a new Golden Age and the start of the Headmaster and Targetmasters.

2. Who survived the Great War? We know Ravage went from Decepticon cassette to Predacon infiltrator, and we did see in flashbacks in Beast Machines that Soundwave was a survivor as well.

3. The Great Upgrade was mentioned in Beast Machines: that is when the Cybertronians converted from Autobot to Maximal and Decepticon to Predacon and Cybertron was apparently given a new surface via mechaforming or engineering to cover the war torn surface. The city of Iaacon, former Autobot capital became "lost" and it also has a hologram memorial of Optimus Prime. Why the Great Upgrade? Was it to conserve energy resources? Maximals and Predacons are basically evolved/upgraded versions of the Micromasters and they also wear advanced versions of Pretender Armor that is bonded to them for their beast forms.

4. Who are the Maximal Elders? Former Autobots that became Maximals?

5. There was a statue of Optimus holding Golden Discs in Beast Machines....a tribute statue?

6. Beast Wars and Machines are linked to the original cartoon due to Starscream's Ghost which means that Optimus was dead and revived to reclaim leadership from Rodimus and the Matrix was emptied.....was it ever recharged? What is the fate of Optimus Prime? Dead? Missing? Valhalla?

7. Protoform X/Rampage....when Depthcharge arrived on ancient earth, Primal did tell Depthcharge that neither of them were responsible for X destroying Colony Omicron.....why would Optimus state he himself wasn't responsible? Did he have a hand in the creation of Protoform X, and thus that was why HE was chosen to dump X on a barren planet somewhere?

8. All-spark/Matrix, Vector Sigma, The Oracle, The Matrix of Leadership....what is the link between them all?

Dreamwave comics with their G1 series was building up to their own year 2005 event similar to the movie and had ties to Beast Wars as well.....if only IDW could resume the Dreamwave storyline...

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