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- of the 80 and 90s?

- of all time?

Honestly, I think it's my favorite of all time. Keefer Sutherland's best work, for sure. This is the vampire film that rings truest to me. It must surely have been a major influence on Joss Whedon's vision for the Buffy universe.

If you want medieval vampires still neck-biting, then a Dracula film is probably your jam. If you want vampires as gods, then Queen of the Damned may do it for you. But if you want vampires as they might actually exist in a place like Central Park, then it's Lost Boys all the way.

Agree? Disagree?






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    - of the 80 and 90s?



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    - of all time?



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    Honestly, I think it's my favorite of all time. Keefer Sutherland's best work, for sure. This is the vampire film that rings truest to me. It must surely have been a major influence on Joss Whedon's vision for the Buffy universe.



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    If you want medieval vampires still neck-biting, then a Dracula film is probably your jam. If you want vampires as gods, then Queen of the Damned may do it for you. But if you want vampires as they might actually exist in a place like Central Park, then it's Lost Boys all the way.



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I don't hate the movie, by any means. It's awesome fun! And I really don't like those Corey brats. There are just too many great vampire films before and since. Maybe it's the best teen vampire movie. But Fright Night and even Monster Squad actually come close, imo. And honestly, I really don't like how Lost Boys ended.

From Dusk Till Dawn?
Bram Stoker's Coppola's Dracula?
Blade?
Interview With A Vampire?

Just in the 80s/90s, I would say those were better.

I'm a big fan of the original Nosferatu (the supreme vampire movie of all time, imo). At least a few of those Hammer films? Better than Lost Boys, imo. Frankly, I liked Christopher Lee even more than Legosi.

But yeah, I'd agree that it's probably the best Kiefer Sutherland movie.




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I agree with Black Guardian, it's a fun movie but not necessarily the best.

I came to The Lost Boys late, maybe in the late '90s or later. I actually liked the Frog Brothers and Haim was okay in his early days. Jason Patric is passable at best. Keifer is fine in this role. The seduction of the main protagonist to the dark side was done somewhat better in Point Break, although the hero fought against it better. Jami Gertz was awful cute. Dianne Weist and Edward Hermann were memorable in their roles.

It's definitely more stylish than Once Bitten. I also was a latecomer to Fright Night, in fact I actually just saw it in its entirety for the first time in the last month. If I had seen it growing up, I might have liked it slightly better than The Lost Boys. Well, I don't know, Lost Boys had that MTV vibe, good soundtrack as I recall.

I was also a big fan of The Monster Squad, most years I make the family watch it at Halloween. Recently I finally got around to watching all the original Universal Monsters and while Frankenstein was a far better film, I like Lugosi's Dracula. They just don't give him enough to do. I feel like he actually had more screen time in Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein and it was a pleasure.

I also was a fan of the 80s/90s Dark Shadows TV show. I never saw the original and I didn't love the recent Tim Burton remake but that TV show was not bad. Then the short-lived Kindred: The Embraced was pretty good.

There was just so much vampire stuff out there that honestly I was tired of the genre by the mid '90s. I liked that Buffy incorporated a lot of other monster types and was mostly comedy, that helped it out.

I loved the Blade movies, they were more action and superheroey and somewhat kung fu inspired.

Then as BG said there was From Dusk Till Dawn. Innocent Blood also goes into that category of black comedy.

I'm not sure I have a definitive vampire movie. They all have their good and bad parts. They seem to enter into almost every genre: drama, horror, action, comedy, romance. I can't remember what might have been my first one. Love At First Bite? Maybe Lugosi's Dracula? I still haven't seen the Hammer versions.



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I watched the Lost Boys several times on cable back then and greatly enjoyed it, along with Fright Night. I haven't seen either one in quite a while but I have fond memories of them both.

I'd agree with what the other guys have said. The Lost Boys is a great teen vampire movie and lots of fun but my best vampire movie would probably be Hammer's Dracula or maybe even The Night Stalker.

I think it's worth mentioning the comic book store setting in The Lost Boys, though. Stores like that really weren't seen in the media in 1987 and, as a teen comic book fan, I thought that was really cool.


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Another really good vampire movie from this time period is Near Dark. It was released about 2 months after Lost Boys, and I think this is why it did so poorly, although it's not nearly as "fun" as Lost Boys. It's a neo-western/biker movie with vampires, starring Aliens alums Paxton and Henriksen as two of the vamp clan bikers. The hero is Adrian Pasdar, who did the voice of Iron Man in some cartoons and was most recently Graviton on Agents of SHIELD. It got great reviews, but the people had seemingly lost interest in vamps by then.

Also had good music by Tangerine Dream, if you're into that kind of dark synth stuff.




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The DVDs of the other films directed by Ferrara are very easy to find but, during a very long time, not this one. I don't know why.

Apparently, a Blu-ray was finally released last year.
https://www.list.co.uk/article/101471-abel-ferrara-the-blood-just-looks-better-black-its-scarier/


Otherwise, I have watched nearly every vampire movie that that I really wanted to watch (... not all of the vampire films, that's close to impossible ... and I don't want to waste time watching too many bad vampire movies, except if they are so laughable that they are funny).

Lost Boys is a good movie. I like Near Dark as well.

Among the 1980s films, I would recommend The Hunger (1983), also.

Back then, the stories of Ridley Scott's Blade Runner & Tony Scott's The Hunger were how the two directors tried to cope with the death of their elder brother.

Just like Blade Runner, The Hunger was heavily criticised at the time and, later, became a cult favorite.




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    - of the 80 and 90s?

The 1990s were the decade of the revival of the vampire movies ! \:\-\)

Coppola's Dracula, Interview with the Vampire, Blade, From Dusk till Dawn, John Carpenter's Vampires, The Wisdom of Crocodiles, Cronos, Innocent Blood ...


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    - of all time?

It is very hard to answer that.

I agree with Black Guardian. If I have to pick only one, Murnau's Nosferatu is the most iconic cult movie of the vampire genre.

BTW, I recommend to watch Murnau's Nosferatu, then Herzog's version and then Shadow of the Vampire. \:\-\)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosferatu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosferatu_the_Vampyre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_of_the_Vampire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._W._Murnau#References_in_popular_culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albin_Grau
http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/2014/10/28/albin-graus-nosferatu/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxE4yITfRLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd55RC_9OjQ


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The first vampire film I ever saw was Dracula (1979, with Frank Langella). It's still my favorite. It compelled me to pick up and read Stoker's novel, and it's a reasonably faithful version of the novel. It's a bit campy by today's standards, but the imagery of Dracula climbing up the wall of the asylum gave me nightmares for years.

Lost Boys was more of a comedy than a horror. An interesting artistic decision to have a gang of mostly male vampires seducing a young male into the vampire lifestyle, as opposed to the more traditional idea of seducing young women.

Vampire's Kiss is probably my favorite Nicholas Cage role by a longshot. I don't think he has the chops for serious roles and I can't take him seriously as an action star, but I like him in offbeat comedic roles.

I loved the Interview with a Vampire book but hated the casting of Tom Cruise as Lestat. That was also the first time I thought Tom Cruise was an overactor, but he really, really is. Would have loved to see Matt Dillon as Lestat and River Phoenix as Louis, but River died around the time this movie came out.




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