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Cbasfrench




I noticed something, while reading this issue, that might be rather important with regard to the identity of Menace. When Harry Osborn and Lily Hollister are racing away from a Super-Skrull, they end up crashing into a light pole. Harry and Lily leave the vehicle in a hurry just as one of the Super-Skrulls blows it into pieces. Flames roaring all around him, Harry has no idea where Lily went. With a Super-Skrull hot on his tail, Harry runs away, though he wonders what happened to Lily the entire time. Harry then finds a hiding spot while the Super-Skrull sends cars flying all over the place, seemingly looking for him. Just then, someone off-panel says "Quiet you" and cuts the Super-Skrull's head right off. The someone is revealed to be none other than Menace. Now isn't it quite coincidental that Menace appeared within seconds of Lily disappearing? Didn't Brian Reed mention something in an interview a little while back about dropping big hints about the identity of Menace in this limited series? Thoughts please?

Cbasfrench


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Spidey2099




Lily ran away and found Carlie, who told her to hide while she calls for backup. Carlie then goes to her "stash", suits up and saves Harry as Menace.

> I noticed something, while reading this issue, that might be rather important with regard to the identity of Menace. When Harry Osborn and Lily Hollister are racing away from a Super-Skrull, they end up crashing into a light pole. Harry and Lily leave the vehicle in a hurry just as one of the Super-Skrulls blows it into pieces. Flames roaring all around him, Harry has no idea where Lily went. With a Super-Skrull hot on his tail, Harry runs away, though he wonders what happened to Lily the entire time. Harry then finds a hiding spot while the Super-Skrull sends cars flying all over the place, seemingly looking for him. Just then, someone off-panel says "Quiet you" and cuts the Super-Skrull's head right off. The someone is revealed to be none other than Menace. Now isn't it quite coincidental that Menace appeared within seconds of Lily disappearing? Didn't Brian Reed mention something in an interview a little while back about dropping big hints about the identity of Menace in this limited series? Thoughts please?
>
> Cbasfrench



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Grumpy





That is exactly what I thought when I read that issue...although I haven't read the interview so I can't help you there.

I have been having a lot of trouble understanding how Spider-Man off in the Savage Land could know what is happening with Jackpot back in NY....
Am I missing something here?

> I noticed something, while reading this issue, that might be rather important with regard to the identity of Menace. When Harry Osborn and Lily Hollister are racing away from a Super-Skrull, they end up crashing into a light pole. Harry and Lily leave the vehicle in a hurry just as one of the Super-Skrulls blows it into pieces. Flames roaring all around him, Harry has no idea where Lily went. With a Super-Skrull hot on his tail, Harry runs away, though he wonders what happened to Lily the entire time. Harry then finds a hiding spot while the Super-Skrull sends cars flying all over the place, seemingly looking for him. Just then, someone off-panel says "Quiet you" and cuts the Super-Skrull's head right off. The someone is revealed to be none other than Menace. Now isn't it quite coincidental that Menace appeared within seconds of Lily disappearing? Didn't Brian Reed mention something in an interview a little while back about dropping big hints about the identity of Menace in this limited series? Thoughts please?
>
> Cbasfrench



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stillanerd




> Lily ran away and found Carlie, who told her to hide while she calls for backup. Carlie then goes to her "stash", suits up and saves Harry as Menace.
>
That's very likely. Since New Ways to Die was trying to make it appear as though Harry is Menace (and ironically this issue of Secret Invasion Spider-Man ruins that whole subplot--course everyone was thinking Harry was a red herring already) we're now having Lily being set-up as a possible suspect now. However, it's likely she's another red herring, especially when you consider the reaction she had when her father was hospitalized as a result of Menace's attack.

Also, Dexter Bennet appears to be out of the suspect list as well, since he's in the car along with Robbie and Betty being attacked by the Venom-Skrull while Jackpot is preoccupied with Menace.

No, Carlie is now really on top of the suspect list now, for sure.



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Cbasfrench




>
> That is exactly what I thought when I read that issue...although I haven't read the interview so I can't help you there.
>
> I have been having a lot of trouble understanding how Spider-Man off in the Savage Land could know what is happening with Jackpot back in NY....
> Am I missing something here?

I didn't get that either. It was very anti-climatic to start the issue like that.

Cbasfrench


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Cbasfrench




> Lily ran away and found Carlie, who told her to hide while she calls for backup. Carlie then goes to her "stash", suits up and saves Harry as Menace.

I've read your other analysis in another posts about Lily being Menace and reading the above statement now, I think you're on to something Spidey2099. It does make a lot of sense that it would be Carlie. While reading the issue, I thought it was weird for Harry to drive to the precinct to find Carlie when he really should have been trying to flee New York City all together. It was probably to set everything up for Carlie to turn into Menace. When Carlie was first introduced as a forensic specialist, wasn't there mention of something having happened to her father, a former police officer, or something like that? Perhaps her father died because of something related to either Randall Crowne or Norman Osborn, or any other politician for that matter? Maybe that's why Menace is hell bent on affecting the city's mayoral race.




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Ned Leeds Jr. 

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> >
> > That is exactly what I thought when I read that issue...although I haven't read the interview so I can't help you there.
> >
> > I have been having a lot of trouble understanding how Spider-Man off in the Savage Land could know what is happening with Jackpot back in NY....
> > Am I missing something here?
>
> I didn't get that either. It was very anti-climatic to start the issue like that.
>
> Cbasfrench

I interpreted it as a narrative device. Spidey, at the time, would not know what was going on. I'm guessing it was just viewed as a reader-friendly way of catching readers up and/or reminding them what went on in the issue prior.




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> I noticed something, while reading this issue, that might be rather important with regard to the identity of Menace. When Harry Osborn and Lily Hollister are racing away from a Super-Skrull, they end up crashing into a light pole. Harry and Lily leave the vehicle in a hurry just as one of the Super-Skrulls blows it into pieces. Flames roaring all around him, Harry has no idea where Lily went. With a Super-Skrull hot on his tail, Harry runs away, though he wonders what happened to Lily the entire time. Harry then finds a hiding spot while the Super-Skrull sends cars flying all over the place, seemingly looking for him. Just then, someone off-panel says "Quiet you" and cuts the Super-Skrull's head right off. The someone is revealed to be none other than Menace. Now isn't it quite coincidental that Menace appeared within seconds of Lily disappearing? Didn't Brian Reed mention something in an interview a little while back about dropping big hints about the identity of Menace in this limited series? Thoughts please?
>
> Cbasfrench

Good catch.

The only aspect that I didn't like about this issue was the visual depiction of Vic. He looked like a middle-aged man with a small build. Had someone not identified him by name, I'd have had no clue that it was him.

Ned




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Cbasfrench




> > I noticed something, while reading this issue, that might be rather important with regard to the identity of Menace. When Harry Osborn and Lily Hollister are racing away from a Super-Skrull, they end up crashing into a light pole. Harry and Lily leave the vehicle in a hurry just as one of the Super-Skrulls blows it into pieces. Flames roaring all around him, Harry has no idea where Lily went. With a Super-Skrull hot on his tail, Harry runs away, though he wonders what happened to Lily the entire time. Harry then finds a hiding spot while the Super-Skrull sends cars flying all over the place, seemingly looking for him. Just then, someone off-panel says "Quiet you" and cuts the Super-Skrull's head right off. The someone is revealed to be none other than Menace. Now isn't it quite coincidental that Menace appeared within seconds of Lily disappearing? Didn't Brian Reed mention something in an interview a little while back about dropping big hints about the identity of Menace in this limited series? Thoughts please?
> >
> > Cbasfrench
>
> Good catch.
>
> The only aspect that I didn't like about this issue was the visual depiction of Vic. He looked like a middle-aged man with a small build. Had someone not identified him by name, I'd have had no clue that it was him.
>
> Ned

I too noted that; the artist definitely missed the mark with that one.
That's one of the things that bug me about pencillers today...the same characters look totally different from one panel to the other or entirely different from what they initially looked like. The reason I like the art of legends like Sal Buscema, the Romitas, Byrne, etc. is that their characters look the same from one page to another, as well as from one issue to another. There is no mistaking characters with them. You can't say the same thing about artists today.

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> > Lily ran away and found Carlie, who told her to hide while she calls for backup. Carlie then goes to her "stash", suits up and saves Harry as Menace.
> >
> That's very likely. Since New Ways to Die was trying to make it appear as though Harry is Menace (and ironically this issue of Secret Invasion Spider-Man ruins that whole subplot--course everyone was thinking Harry was a red herring already) we're now having Lily being set-up as a possible suspect now. However, it's likely she's another red herring, especially when you consider the reaction she had when her father was hospitalized as a result of Menace's attack.
>
> Also, Dexter Bennet appears to be out of the suspect list as well, since he's in the car along with Robbie and Betty being attacked by the Venom-Skrull while Jackpot is preoccupied with Menace.
>
> No, Carlie is now really on top of the suspect list now, for sure.

In NWTD, Menace says he wants to control NYC politics. Why would someone like Carlie want to control NYC like the Kingpin or something? The motivation doesn't seem to be there.

I will stand by what I believe...it can't be that easy for someone to just jump on a glider, fly it at high speed, fight a top notch hero like Spiderman and not be hurt or injured when Spidey hits or kicks them.
>



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Cbasfrench




> > > Lily ran away and found Carlie, who told her to hide while she calls for backup. Carlie then goes to her "stash", suits up and saves Harry as Menace.
> > >
> > That's very likely. Since New Ways to Die was trying to make it appear as though Harry is Menace (and ironically this issue of Secret Invasion Spider-Man ruins that whole subplot--course everyone was thinking Harry was a red herring already) we're now having Lily being set-up as a possible suspect now. However, it's likely she's another red herring, especially when you consider the reaction she had when her father was hospitalized as a result of Menace's attack.
> >
> > Also, Dexter Bennet appears to be out of the suspect list as well, since he's in the car along with Robbie and Betty being attacked by the Venom-Skrull while Jackpot is preoccupied with Menace.
> >
> > No, Carlie is now really on top of the suspect list now, for sure.
>
> In NWTD, Menace says he wants to control NYC politics. Why would someone like Carlie want to control NYC like the Kingpin or something? The motivation doesn't seem to be there.

Unless something happened to her in the past that involved politics. For instance, maybe someone close to her got killed and the murderer got away with it because he/she knew some politicians. Perhaps Carlie realized the power of politics and decided, as Menace, to get a piece of the action, so to speak. She was motivated by the power that lied in dealing with politics, in other words.

> I will stand by what I believe...it can't be that easy for someone to just jump on a glider, fly it at high speed, fight a top notch hero like Spiderman and not be hurt or injured when Spidey hits or kicks them.
> >
With goblin formula coursing through her bloodstream, anything is possible.




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stillanerd




>
> In NWTD, Menace says he wants to control NYC politics. Why would someone like Carlie want to control NYC like the Kingpin or something? The motivation doesn't seem to be there.
>

I don't Menace said, specifically, that he wants to control New York City, but rather influence the outcome of the election which is in itself a form of power. But anyway, look at how Carlie was portrayed in ASM #548.

Her late-father was someone who was well respected in the police force while she was barely given the time of day because she was just some lowly forensic investigator. Not to mention the fact that she's a woman and probably feels she gets underestimated and marginalized because of her sex. Remember, Menace originally tried to kidnap--not kill--the female mayoral candidate. Now that Hollister is running, who we've been told is like a father to her since his family looked after her after her dad died, then she has more than enough insentive now to see he gets the job. And if he gets the job, then she's got more opportunity for herself and to be part of something important.

Likewise, remember that Menace didn't just say that Osborn threw away an empire, he also had a family that he tossed aside as well. Carlie, having lost her own father, would realize the importance of family.

> I will stand by what I believe...it can't be that easy for someone to just jump on a glider, fly it at high speed, fight a top notch hero like Spiderman and not be hurt or injured when Spidey hits or kicks them.
> >

Consider the following: Carlie, being that she is a forensic scientist, had to have had some training in various scientific fields, so she would have an understanding of how the goblin gear would work. Likewise, being a member of the NYPD, she would also have had to have gone through some physical fitness and self-defense training as well.

Also, we're assuming that Menace's powers come from the goblin formula. Menace's "powers" could easily come from his/her costume, that it increases a person's overall strength and durability, as well as have some high-tech visual equipment such as night vision, telescopic sights, and self-targeting?


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> >
> > In NWTD, Menace says he wants to control NYC politics. Why would someone like Carlie want to control NYC like the Kingpin or something? The motivation doesn't seem to be there.
>
> Unless something happened to her in the past that involved politics. For instance, maybe someone close to her got killed and the murderer got away with it because he/she knew some politicians. Perhaps Carlie realized the power of politics and decided, as Menace, to get a piece of the action, so to speak. She was motivated by the power that lied in dealing with politics, in other words.
>

Exactly. Remember, her father, who used to be a cop, died. It's very likely that he might have been killed by a criminal and that he got off because he was protected by politicians like Crowne.

> > I will stand by what I believe...it can't be that easy for someone to just jump on a glider, fly it at high speed, fight a top notch hero like Spiderman and not be hurt or injured when Spidey hits or kicks them.
> > >
> With goblin formula coursing through her bloodstream, anything is possible.
>
Or, if not the Goblin formula, the costume itself could act as a strength enhancing exoskeleton.


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Cbasfrench




> > >
> > > In NWTD, Menace says he wants to control NYC politics. Why would someone like Carlie want to control NYC like the Kingpin or something? The motivation doesn't seem to be there.
> >
> > Unless something happened to her in the past that involved politics. For instance, maybe someone close to her got killed and the murderer got away with it because he/she knew some politicians. Perhaps Carlie realized the power of politics and decided, as Menace, to get a piece of the action, so to speak. She was motivated by the power that lied in dealing with politics, in other words.
> >
>
> Exactly. Remember, her father, who used to be a cop, died. It's very likely that he might have been killed by a criminal and that he got off because he was protected by politicians like Crowne.
>
> > > I will stand by what I believe...it can't be that easy for someone to just jump on a glider, fly it at high speed, fight a top notch hero like Spiderman and not be hurt or injured when Spidey hits or kicks them.
> > > >
> > With goblin formula coursing through her bloodstream, anything is possible.
> >
> Or, if not the Goblin formula, the costume itself could act as a strength enhancing exoskeleton.

Exactly. She could have hooked up with the Tinkerer (is he still alive?). I mean the Grizzly for instance gets most of his strength from his exoskeleton so I can't see why it wouldn't work on a woman. I agree with you completely.




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Spidey2099




> I will stand by what I believe...it can't be that easy for someone to just jump on a glider, fly it at high speed, fight a top notch hero like Spiderman and not be hurt or injured when Spidey hits or kicks them.

As introduced in Kraven's First Hunt.

Maybe Menace uses MGH, and it only lasts in spurts. That's why Menace let Osborn go when the alarm went off. "BEEP BEEP BEEP", time is up.


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stillanerd




> > I will stand by what I believe...it can't be that easy for someone to just jump on a glider, fly it at high speed, fight a top notch hero like Spiderman and not be hurt or injured when Spidey hits or kicks them.
>
> As introduced in Kraven's First Hunt.
>
> Maybe Menace uses MGH, and it only lasts in spurts. That's why Menace let Osborn go when the alarm went off. "BEEP BEEP BEEP", time is up.

Hmm. Good idea.


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Cbasfrench




> > I will stand by what I believe...it can't be that easy for someone to just jump on a glider, fly it at high speed, fight a top notch hero like Spiderman and not be hurt or injured when Spidey hits or kicks them.
>
> As introduced in Kraven's First Hunt.
>
> Maybe Menace uses MGH, and it only lasts in spurts. That's why Menace let Osborn go when the alarm went off. "BEEP BEEP BEEP", time is up.

You know, I wondered what that was all about. I think you're on to something Spidey2099...great detective skills! It would make sense and would tie it well with Kraven's First Hunt...


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Pengi




> It was very anti-climatic to start the issue like that.

An anti-climactic start?

...

Wha????


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Spidey2099




>...great detective skills!

I'm an insomniac. I spend most nights staring at the ceiling making connections between things from my day.


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Cbasfrench




> > It was very anti-climatic to start the issue like that.
>
> An anti-climactic start?
>
> ...
>
> Wha????

The last issue ended with a cliffhanger...starting this story with a Spider-Man monologue was anti-climactic...took away from the cliffhanger from the first issue IMO.




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Grumpy





Ok, I am agreeing with you all about this, things seem more open then I first though.

One aspect though, is how would Carlie have access to Norman's equipment (The stuff that was revealed to be missing in Amz 572)?

Now Harries girlfriend has a much better shot of getting that stuff than Carlie....


> >
> > In NWTD, Menace says he wants to control NYC politics. Why would someone like Carlie want to control NYC like the Kingpin or something? The motivation doesn't seem to be there.
> >
>
> I don't Menace said, specifically, that he wants to control New York City, but rather influence the outcome of the election which is in itself a form of power. But anyway, look at how Carlie was portrayed in ASM #548.
>
> Her late-father was someone who was well respected in the police force while she was barely given the time of day because she was just some lowly forensic investigator. Not to mention the fact that she's a woman and probably feels she gets underestimated and marginalized because of her sex. Remember, Menace originally tried to kidnap--not kill--the female mayoral candidate. Now that Hollister is running, who we've been told is like a father to her since his family looked after her after her dad died, then she has more than enough insentive now to see he gets the job. And if he gets the job, then she's got more opportunity for herself and to be part of something important.
>
> Likewise, remember that Menace didn't just say that Osborn threw away an empire, he also had a family that he tossed aside as well. Carlie, having lost her own father, would realize the importance of family.
>
> > I will stand by what I believe...it can't be that easy for someone to just jump on a glider, fly it at high speed, fight a top notch hero like Spiderman and not be hurt or injured when Spidey hits or kicks them.
> > >
>
> Consider the following: Carlie, being that she is a forensic scientist, had to have had some training in various scientific fields, so she would have an understanding of how the goblin gear would work. Likewise, being a member of the NYPD, she would also have had to have gone through some physical fitness and self-defense training as well.
>
> Also, we're assuming that Menace's powers come from the goblin formula. Menace's "powers" could easily come from his/her costume, that it increases a person's overall strength and durability, as well as have some high-tech visual equipment such as night vision, telescopic sights, and self-targeting?



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Grumpy





Ya, that is what I figured it was too, and in general I don't mind recap pages here and there (I feel they add to the continuity of things).
But it really just brushed me the wrong way to be having Spider-Man (who knows nothing of what is going on), to be the one giving it.

> > >
> > > That is exactly what I thought when I read that issue...although I haven't read the interview so I can't help you there.
> > >
> > > I have been having a lot of trouble understanding how Spider-Man off in the Savage Land could know what is happening with Jackpot back in NY....
> > > Am I missing something here?
> >
> > I didn't get that either. It was very anti-climatic to start the issue like that.
> >
> > Cbasfrench
>
> I interpreted it as a narrative device. Spidey, at the time, would not know what was going on. I'm guessing it was just viewed as a reader-friendly way of catching readers up and/or reminding them what went on in the issue prior.



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Spidey2099




Carlie is Lily's best friend. They go everywhere together. If Lily has access, Carlie has access. Carlie can also assumably pick a lock and can sneak off without being noticed as seen in the first story arc of BND.

>
> Ok, I am agreeing with you all about this, things seem more open then I first though.
>
> One aspect though, is how would Carlie have access to Norman's equipment (The stuff that was revealed to be missing in Amz 572)?
>
> Now Harries girlfriend has a much better shot of getting that stuff than Carlie....
>
>
> > >
> > > In NWTD, Menace says he wants to control NYC politics. Why would someone like Carlie want to control NYC like the Kingpin or something? The motivation doesn't seem to be there.
> > >
> >
> > I don't Menace said, specifically, that he wants to control New York City, but rather influence the outcome of the election which is in itself a form of power. But anyway, look at how Carlie was portrayed in ASM #548.
> >
> > Her late-father was someone who was well respected in the police force while she was barely given the time of day because she was just some lowly forensic investigator. Not to mention the fact that she's a woman and probably feels she gets underestimated and marginalized because of her sex. Remember, Menace originally tried to kidnap--not kill--the female mayoral candidate. Now that Hollister is running, who we've been told is like a father to her since his family looked after her after her dad died, then she has more than enough insentive now to see he gets the job. And if he gets the job, then she's got more opportunity for herself and to be part of something important.
> >
> > Likewise, remember that Menace didn't just say that Osborn threw away an empire, he also had a family that he tossed aside as well. Carlie, having lost her own father, would realize the importance of family.
> >
> > > I will stand by what I believe...it can't be that easy for someone to just jump on a glider, fly it at high speed, fight a top notch hero like Spiderman and not be hurt or injured when Spidey hits or kicks them.
> > > >
> >
> > Consider the following: Carlie, being that she is a forensic scientist, had to have had some training in various scientific fields, so she would have an understanding of how the goblin gear would work. Likewise, being a member of the NYPD, she would also have had to have gone through some physical fitness and self-defense training as well.
> >
> > Also, we're assuming that Menace's powers come from the goblin formula. Menace's "powers" could easily come from his/her costume, that it increases a person's overall strength and durability, as well as have some high-tech visual equipment such as night vision, telescopic sights, and self-targeting?



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Julio Barone




Betty mentioned this issue she was getting everything down on her Blackberry.

That would have been a good framing way of recapping if done right.

>
> Ya, that is what I figured it was too, and in general I don't mind recap pages here and there (I feel they add to the continuity of things).
> But it really just brushed me the wrong way to be having Spider-Man (who knows nothing of what is going on), to be the one giving it.
>
> > > >
> > > > That is exactly what I thought when I read that issue...although I haven't read the interview so I can't help you there.
> > > >
> > > > I have been having a lot of trouble understanding how Spider-Man off in the Savage Land could know what is happening with Jackpot back in NY....
> > > > Am I missing something here?
> > >
> > > I didn't get that either. It was very anti-climatic to start the issue like that.
> > >
> > > Cbasfrench
> >
> > I interpreted it as a narrative device. Spidey, at the time, would not know what was going on. I'm guessing it was just viewed as a reader-friendly way of catching readers up and/or reminding them what went on in the issue prior.



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> I noticed something, while reading this issue, that might be rather important with regard to the identity of Menace. When Harry Osborn and Lily Hollister are racing away from a Super-Skrull, they end up crashing into a light pole. Harry and Lily leave the vehicle in a hurry just as one of the Super-Skrulls blows it into pieces. Flames roaring all around him, Harry has no idea where Lily went. With a Super-Skrull hot on his tail, Harry runs away, though he wonders what happened to Lily the entire time. Harry then finds a hiding spot while the Super-Skrull sends cars flying all over the place, seemingly looking for him. Just then, someone off-panel says "Quiet you" and cuts the Super-Skrull's head right off. The someone is revealed to be none other than Menace. Now isn't it quite coincidental that Menace appeared within seconds of Lily disappearing? Didn't Brian Reed mention something in an interview a little while back about dropping big hints about the identity of Menace in this limited series? Thoughts please?
>
> Cbasfrench

Mephisto (or new cast member dupe of his).

SECRET INVASION: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #2
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Interview:
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Some online page by page reactions...

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http://www.comicboards.com/app/show.php?msg=comicbattles-2008092912211321
Also discouraging continuity hinted at with him monologue mentioned by Grumpy:
http://www.comicboards.com/app/show.php?rpy=smb-2008092502513208


Hard to see looks like layout for SI *yawn*Frontline solicits.


Add superhearing and supervoice powers to Jackpot. With windows rolled up and sounds of war going on she talks with Robbie thru the car. Still being chased by same Superskrull (down a skrull-free street) so minus good against MU heavyweights to her powers.

Havent read every panel of Jackpot to date, but she seems to have become progressively less uniquely interesting since her enjoyable Swing Shift introduction.


Oh yeah, nothing really happened to the MU in SI:FF except the BaxterBldg WAS destroyed: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/estruwe/ff8.jpg
The artist gets TOO much artistic leeway here.

Maybe Ben Urich should replace Sally with the more professional reporter Betty. ;\-\)

Remind me, Spidey cant detect Venom but Venom can smell Spidey always, right? And, it's assumed that Superskrull powers are from cells taken from each of the amalgam heroes used, right? Plus, the skrulls should know Spidey is in the Savage Land but for some reason this skrull is oblivious to that fact, eh? Odd.


IIRC, an intelligent Harry lived in NYC most of his life (on more than one block). Good marketing for car ownership continues. As in Frontline, being in a car is better protection than Odinpower http://www.comicboards.com/app/show.php?rpy=thor-2008091821280414 or Kree enhanced lovely physique http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mm3010hg4.jpg


Apparently there is a font table for the skrullspeak somewhere. At this point, it should be appendixed in a small box of each SI crossover rather than make readers (some w/o pc) to waste time searching online. Its a pet peeve and too much of a bother to go to outside sources to better appreciate the predictably generic superskrull comment.

These humans are getting better(even while wounded) than some heroes at evading skrulls during this Event even w/o a car. Good for Harry.


Woah. A Strange/IM/Bolt-skrull! With a passing glance. Glider Boy and axe are MOST impressive powerwise or this is another superskrull jobbing.


Menace should TOAST Jackpot. But he predictably will NOT - the curious thing is to what will be the cause of his failure. Is he presuming or does he KNOW with his tone something the readers shouldve guessed by now. Is this evidence that Menace is Mephisto or dupe of his or just more vaguery and misdirection?

Glad didnt buy it especially after reading the recap and medial review at IGN: http://comics.ign.com/articles/913/913072p1.html



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