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When Bennett Brant's return from the dead came up in the thread about why Jean DeWolff, Ben Reilly and Ned Leeds aren't mentioned more often, I was struck by how often "normal civilian" supporting characters were transformed into something else or became connected to superheroes and villains, so that these days there are precious few recurring characters who 1) did not gain superpowers themselves or 2) are related to a supervillain or -hero. I'll attempt a list:

Liz Allan - revealed to be the Molten Man's step-sister in the 1970s, later married Harry Osborn (Green Goblin II), bore his son, and between the Clone Saga and BND was Norman Osborn's (Green Goblin I) daughter-in-law.

Flash Thompson - became the new Venom after OMD.

The other students at Midtown High (mostly used in crowd scenes): Sally (Avril) in Untold Tales of Spider-Man became a costumed heroine and was later killed. At least two other students who attended Midtown High at the same time as Peter gained superpowers: Jessica Jones (Alias) and Charlie Weiderman (in "Skin Deep" during JMS's run).

J. Jonah Jameson - Father of John Jameson, who became the Man-Wolf. JJJ is also responsible for Mac Gargan becoming the Scorpion and funded several Spider-Slayers (at least one of which was built by his later wife, Marla Madison).

John Jameson - became the Man-Wolf.

Betty Brant - her brother Bennett was brought back from the dead and retooled as the new Crime Master in the Venom series starring Flash Thompson.

Frederick Foswell - became the Big Man, later was killed.

Ned Leeds - was for a time believed to have been the original Hobgoblin. In any case, he was killed off.

Mary Jane Watson - was married to Spider-Man between ASM Annual #21 and OMD.

Gwen Stacy - was killed off and decades later revealed to have been the mother of Norman Osborn's twin children, who are also superpowered.

Professor Warren - became the Jackal, died, was replaced by his clone Carrion, who also died.

Sha Shan - I vaguely recall that her grandfather was some kind of priest/mage who was somehow connected to Dr. Strange. She also used to be the villainess Sister Sun, partnered with a certain Brother Power.

Jean DeWolff - daughter of a criminal father, sister of the Wraith.

Marcie Kane - revealed to be an alien, left Earth.

Ben Urich - uncle to Phil, who later became a new Green Goblin and Hobgoblin.

Hector Ayala (one of Peter's fellow teaching assistants) - became/was revealed to be the original White Tiger.


Which basically leaves as notable "normals" (among the living):

Aunt May (although she used to be Doc Ock's fiancee)

Aunt Anna Watson (and the other Watson relatives)

Joe Robertson and his family

Glory Grant

Debra Whitman

Ashley Kafka?

Det. Lamont

and some minor characters, most of whom haven't been seen in ages (e. g. Roger Hochberg, Mrs. Muggins, Randi, Bambi and Candy...)

Any additions and/or corrections?



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Omar Karindu


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> Liz Allan - revealed to be the Molten Man's step-sister in the 1970s, later married Harry Osborn (Green Goblin II), bore his son, and between the Clone Saga and BND was Norman Osborn's (Green Goblin I) daughter-in-law.

Liz graduated to being an active co-conspirator with Norman Osborn in the final arc of Superior Spider-Man, making her essentially a super-villain's henchperson.

> Flash Thompson - became the new Venom after OMD.

Even before that, he had a stint being framed as the first Hobgoblin, dated Felicia Hardy without ever finding out she was the Black Cat, and was left in a vegetative state for a time after Norman Osborn targeted him to get at Peter

> Sha Shan - I vaguely recall that her grandfather was some kind of priest/mage who was somehow connected to Dr. Strange. She also used to be the villainess Sister Sun, partnered with a certain Brother Power.

In fairness to Sha Shan, she actually started out "superish" and was "normalized." Her first appearances revealed that her father was a mystic, and her second appearance had her as Sister Sun. After that, though, she became a basically normal person and that stuff was never again mentioned.

> Aunt May (although she used to be Doc Ock's fiancee)

Also, she's twice been held hostage by the Green Goblin/Norman Osborn and had her death faked by him once, a status which lasted for months even in-universe

> Joe Robertson and his family

Joe turned out to have a past with the criminal Tombstone and spent some time in prison for failing to report Tombstone's murders out of fear; pardoned eventually.

> Glory Grant

Dated one of the Lobo Brothers and accidentally shot and killed him while trying to kill Spider-Man

> Ashley Kafka?

Became head of an asylum full of superpowered nutcases; murdered by Massacre during Superior Spider-Man

It's worth noting that Liz Allan's relationship to the Molten Man, John Jameson's turn as Man-Wolf, Aunt May nearly marrying Doc Ock, Joe Robertson's past with Tombstone, Glory Grant's relationship with one of the Lobos, and Professor Warren becoming the Jackal were all Gerry Conway plots. Stan may have tied some of the villains up with Spidey's supporting cast, but Conway was arguably the guy who made it almost mandatory that no one could stay "normal" for too long.

He also did a story where Mary Jane was targeted by the third Vulture, the mutated Clifton Shallot, because she bore an almost exact resemblance to someone who knew his secret. And he did the story where Flash Thompson's entire apartment building is being manipulated by the Mindworm.

Some further additions:

Stacy family: Arthur Stacy turned out to be tangled up with Ranger and the alien Senator Ward; his son Phil joined anti-mutant group the Sons of Humanity and wound up fleeing assassins like the Shocker when he turned on them

Jacob Conover - went from a minor Daily Bugle reporter most notable for writing up the news article in "The KId Who Collected Spider-Man" to being one of the many incarnations of the Rose

Joy Mercado -- stayed mostly normal, recently turned up after years of absence as a blogger in an issue of the Warren Ellis Moon Knight

Kate Cushing -- had a sister who joined a cult, but otherwise stayed quite normal despite working for both Jonah and Thomas "puma" Fireheart

Nathan Lubensky -- turned out to have a gambling problem that got him targeted by the mob over and over; died of a heart attack in a confrontation with the Vulture

Aunt May's boarders -- had pretty "grounded" plotlines, actually; even the one action-oriented storyline was basically a "ripped from he headlines" take on the Bernard Goetz incident

Steve Hopkins - Peter's closest friend as a grad student; vanished after Peter quite school

Phillip Chang -- introduced as a character tangled up with the White Dragon, but was soon "normalized" as Peter's grad school buddy; vanished with the other TAs

Roger Hochberg -- Peter's lab partner; vanished like the other TAs

Chip something-or-other -- Peter's colleague during his second stint in grad school; killed by Carnage during the latter's initial rampage




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Menshevik


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Thank you very much for the additions!


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    > Liz Allan - revealed to be the Molten Man's step-sister in the 1970s, later married Harry Osborn (Green Goblin II), bore his son, and between the Clone Saga and BND was Norman Osborn's (Green Goblin I) daughter-in-law.



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    Liz graduated to being an active co-conspirator with Norman Osborn in the final arc of Superior Spider-Man, making her essentially a super-villain's henchperson.



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    > Flash Thompson - became the new Venom after OMD.



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    Even before that, he had a stint being framed as the first Hobgoblin, dated Felicia Hardy without ever finding out she was the Black Cat, and was left in a vegetative state for a time after Norman Osborn targeted him to get at Peter


Well, you have to define a cut-off point, so I deliberately did not include "normal" persons being targeted by criminals and supervillains or dating them for a time, because that is what happens to supporting characters in superhero comics all the time. (And of course you could argue that merely because of their association with Peter Parker/Spider-Man the members of the supporting cast are no longer "normal". So e.g. Gwen got onto my list for sleeping with Norman Osborn and bearing his kids (establishing a familial relationship), not for being killed by him.

Re. Flash I would add that it was eventually revealed that he had known who Felicia was right from the start, which only made sense as Felicia previously had not bothered to keep her ID a secret and as Spidey's biggest fan Flash probably also took an interest in Spider-Man's only publicly known girlfriend.


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    > Sha Shan - I vaguely recall that her grandfather was some kind of priest/mage who was somehow connected to Dr. Strange. She also used to be the villainess Sister Sun, partnered with a certain Brother Power.



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    In fairness to Sha Shan, she actually started out "superish" and was "normalized." Her first appearances revealed that her father was a mystic, and her second appearance had her as Sister Sun. After that, though, she became a basically normal person and that stuff was never again mentioned.


True.


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    > Aunt May (although she used to be Doc Ock's fiancee)



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    Also, she's twice been held hostage by the Green Goblin/Norman Osborn and had her death faked by him once, a status which lasted for months even in-universe


See above; it's basically "normal" for a supporting character who has been around as long as Aunt May. She also e. g. had her death faked by Mysterio in the run-up to ASM #200.


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    It's worth noting that Liz Allan's relationship to the Molten Man, John Jameson's turn as Man-Wolf, Aunt May nearly marrying Doc Ock, Joe Robertson's past with Tombstone, Glory Grant's relationship with one of the Lobos, and Professor Warren becoming the Jackal were all Gerry Conway plots. Stan may have tied some of the villains up with Spidey's supporting cast, but Conway was arguably the guy who made it almost mandatory that no one could stay "normal" for too long.


Well, Aunt May had been Otto Octavius's on-and-off girlfriend since the Ditko run.


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    Some further additions:



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    Stacy family: Arthur Stacy turned out to be tangled up with Ranger and the alien Senator Ward; his son Phil joined anti-mutant group the Sons of Humanity and wound up fleeing assassins like the Shocker when he turned on them



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    Jacob Conover - went from a minor Daily Bugle reporter most notable for writing up the news article in "The KId Who Collected Spider-Man" to being one of the many incarnations of the Rose


Yes, I had forgotten about that. It was another WTF moment for me, because Jacob Conover had been an inoffensive kind of guy who was, as you point out, best associated with one of the ultimate tearjerker/feel-good stories in Spidey history.


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    Joy Mercado -- stayed mostly normal, recently turned up after years of absence as a blogger in an issue of the Warren Ellis Moon Knight



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    Kate Cushing -- had a sister who joined a cult, but otherwise stayed quite normal despite working for both Jonah and Thomas "puma" Fireheart



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    Nathan Lubensky -- turned out to have a gambling problem that got him targeted by the mob over and over; died of a heart attack in a confrontation with the Vulture


Who had sorta become a pal of his earlier in his civilian guise.



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    Aunt May's boarders -- had pretty "grounded" plotlines, actually; even the one action-oriented storyline was basically a "ripped from he headlines" take on the Bernard Goetz incident



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    Steve Hopkins - Peter's closest friend as a grad student; vanished after Peter quite school



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    Phillip Chang -- introduced as a character tangled up with the White Dragon, but was soon "normalized" as Peter's grad school buddy; vanished with the other TAs



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    Roger Hochberg -- Peter's lab partner; vanished like the other TAs



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    Chip something-or-other -- Peter's colleague during his second stint in grad school; killed by Carnage during the latter's initial rampage


Yes, thanks for listing these. Speaking of dead supporting characters, there was also the NYPD SWAT leader Kris Keating, who was killed by the Foreigner and impersonated by him for a time.



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    Chip something-or-other -- Peter's colleague during his second stint in grad school; killed by Carnage during the latter's initial rampage


Was it Chip Martin, who became The Schizoid Man?




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Comicguy1




Um, Glori Grant is still around, isn't she? And what about that female photographer that used to be a supporting cast member? Kate Cushing, I believe, was her name. Ben Urich, but he's usually associated with Daredevil, and with the Daredevil universe. But we always get new supporting cast members.


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Comicguy1




Jenkins, in particular, gave Peter a bunch of supporting characters (And a hamster.) when he went to live in an apartment, or whatever. Did we ever see tem again?


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    Jenkins, in particular, gave Peter a bunch of supporting characters (And a hamster.) when he went to live in an apartment, or whatever. Did we ever see tem again?


Most of JMS' supporting cast really were there to serve the specific story. PAD used some of the characters from the school in FNSM but that's about it. Matt Fraction used JMS' detective in a Sensational Spider-Man Annual where he helps hunt down Mary Jane trying to bring Peter in in a post-Civil War era story.


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    Um, Glori Grant is still around, isn't she? And what about that female photographer that used to be a supporting cast member? Kate Cushing, I believe, was her name. Ben Urich, but he's usually associated with Daredevil, and with the Daredevil universe. But we always get new supporting cast members.


Kate Cushing was city editor of the Daily Bugle for a while, when Robbie was made editor-in-chief. She was eventually "let go" and AFAIK vanished into limbo.

Nick Katzenberg, a very sleazy Bugle journalist and blackmailer, eventually died of lung cancer. He was a smoker. Don't recall if Quesada had anything to do with this story.

Lance Bannon, another Bugle photographer and professional rival to Peter Parker. Killed by F.A.C.A.D.E.

And I can't believe I forgot him:
Eddie Brock, journalist for the Daily Globe - the first Venom.


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      Jenkins, in particular, gave Peter a bunch of supporting characters (And a hamster.) when he went to live in an apartment, or whatever. Did we ever see tem again?



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    Most of JMS' supporting cast really were there to serve the specific story. PAD used some of the characters from the school in FNSM but that's about it. Matt Fraction used JMS' detective in a Sensational Spider-Man Annual where he helps hunt down Mary Jane trying to bring Peter in in a post-Civil War era story.


Detective Lamont appeared in the SSM Annual story by Fraction, but he was actually secretly meeting Peter while someone else (who had been one of MJ's bodyguards during her separation from Peter) went after MJ in another part of New York.
There were also a number of semi-recurrent characters connected with Midtown High, but the last of these dropped from sight after OMD. Of note: PAD's Miss Arrow, who turned out to be more than she seemed (FNSM).

IIRC, Jenkins' characters dropped from sight after Peter and MJ reunited (or earlier).




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Blargh




Well I want to contest the meaning of "normal". I view "normal" as the character not being involved as a superhero/villain/whatever and not having powers themselves. Them simply being involved in some day with someone who does have powers or involved with someone who is a hero/villain shouldn't disqualify them, especially if they aren't a known accomplice. I mean they're in a universe full of superpowered people. They're surely going to have some relation to someone in 616.


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    Well I want to contest the meaning of "normal". I view "normal" as the character not being involved as a superhero/villain/whatever and not having powers themselves. Them simply being involved in some day with someone who does have powers or involved with someone who is a hero/villain shouldn't disqualify them, especially if they aren't a known accomplice. I mean they're in a universe full of superpowered people. They're surely going to have some relation to someone in 616.


Well, my definition was: Not having superpowers themselves and not being related to a superhero or supervillain. By related I mean related by blood (this includes clones), adoption or marriage or having children with the other person. I find that a workable definition. If you want to be more strict, one can narrow this down to relationships between siblings and between parents and children (including in-laws and maybe grandparents/grandchildren). So while after Sins Past Gwen Stacy would no longer be "normal", her giving birth to Norman Osborn's children would not affect the status of her uncle and cousins.

Addendum: I would also exlude relationships that came about after a character's death. Thus George Stacy's "normal" status should not be changed by Sins Past - although he is technically the grandfather of superpowered twins, their conception only happened quite some time after he died.




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It was a different, later character, also named Chip.




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Comicguy1




That was way before Quesada. I never read the issue/storyline where he died, but I hear that it happened off-panel. He wasn't really a supporting cast/friend of Peter's anyway. Eddie Brock was a villain (Is he still alive?), not a supporting cast member. Kate Cushing, that was her. Thanks! ;\-\)


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    That was way before Quesada. I never read the issue/storyline where he died, but I hear that it happened off-panel. He wasn't really a supporting cast/friend of Peter's anyway. Eddie Brock was a villain (Is he still alive?), not a supporting cast member. Kate Cushing, that was her. Thanks! ;\-\)


Thanks for the info!
Yeah, surprisingly enough sleazy blackmailers tend to be villains. But Nick Katzenberg still was useful as a bad example - Peter took MJ to see him as he lay dying to shock her into stopping to smoke.

According to Wikipedia Brock is still alive (he appeared e. g. in Spider-Island and the Venom series starring Flash Thompson. In the latter he was forced to bond with the Toxin symbiote by none other than Bennett Brant, or so I read on wiki. Eddie Brock for a not insignificant part of his career was considered a vigilante anti-hero, and that apparently is his current status.

There is always a bit of an overlap between villains and supporting cast, just look at Norman Osborn during the Silver Age. I wanted to be generous re. Nick Katzenberg and really did not know enough about Eddie Brock to exclude the possibility that he had a few appearances in a non-villainous, supporting role in stories I did not read.



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I've got a few I think (maybe others have mentioned, sorry):

* Caryn & Barker: Peter's neighbours during the Paul Jenkins run (I think some of the other posters clocked this). Never attached to any super heroics although Barker seemed to be hinted as a plot tease.

* April Maye: Reporter at Daily Globe.

* Barney Bushkin: I know he's been around in the Marvel U for some time so maybe he has had interaction with others.

* Lorraine Mandel: A model friend of Mary Jane's who was a supporting cast member at least for one story arc. She became I believe a heroin user and quietly written out when PAD had made his story point (PAD or Conway at any rate).

* Dr. Swann and Anne Marie Baker: Swann was a professor at ESU who was Peter's mentor. Anne Marie was his lab assistant and colleague to Peter. Neither really did much of note, except Swann had brief involvement with the Cosmic Spidey stuff.

* Kristy Watson: Someone else may have covered her. I suppose she's on risky ground because she almost dated Colossus!

* The other Watsons: Philip, Ma Watson, Sara \(\?\) , the kids etc.

* Angela Yin: Hmm. Maybe not, her sister was one of the Dragonflys.

* Cole Cooper: A suspect for being F.A.C.A.D.E. He appeared in the books as a photographer after the event and was clearly being placed not only as a suspect but, ironically, a Lance Bannon style foil.

* Billy Walters: Major new supporting cast member who joined post-Clone Saga and was written out in favour of 'classic' stories when the relaunch happened. He had nothing to do with villains IIRC and simply moved away.

* Cissy Ironwood: Dated Peter a few times. She was a generic love interest penned by Claremont who didn't want to use Marcy Kane as it was about that time.

* Coach: Eh, I can't even remember his surname but the coach who kept interfering with Peter during College.

* Willie Lumpkin: Okay, okay, he was the postman for the Fantastic Four but he never did anything with a hero or a villain, right? And he dated May and was a supporting cast member for at least two years.

* Seymour O'Rielly: Would have counted until Angelo Fortunato broke his neck...

* Do the Daily Grind cast count - Desiree, Buzz, etc.?

* There was that neighbour that Ben Reilly had, who people mistook IRL for Joystick for years. Who was she again?

Any more for any more?

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Thanks for the additional list! Some comments:


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    I've got a few I think (maybe others have mentioned, sorry):



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    * Dr. Swann and Anne Marie Baker: Swann was a professor at ESU who was Peter's mentor. Anne Marie was his lab assistant and colleague to Peter. Neither really did much of note, except Swann had brief involvement with the Cosmic Spidey stuff.



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    * Kristy Watson: Someone else may have covered her. I suppose she's on risky ground because she almost dated Colossus!


For the purposes of this thread I don't count people just dating a superpowered person.


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    * The other Watsons: Philip, Ma Watson, Sara \(\?\) , the kids etc.


MJ's mother Madeline was already dead before Peter first laid eyes on Mary Jane. Her sister's name is Gayle, Gayle's sons are Kevin and Tommy, their deadbeat father is Timmy Byrnes. No super-connections AFAIK (except, of course, to Spider-Man, but those do not count for the purposes of this thread).

A few other of MJ's relatives also appeared or were mentioned, again AFAIK without super-connections, most notably her Uncle Spencer, who performed the wedding ceremony in ASM Annual #21 (a character originally created for the newspaper strip).


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    * Angela Yin: Hmm. Maybe not, her sister was one of the Dragonflys.



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    * Cole Cooper: A suspect for being F.A.C.A.D.E. He appeared in the books as a photographer after the event and was clearly being placed not only as a suspect but, ironically, a Lance Bannon style foil.



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    * Billy Walters: Major new supporting cast member who joined post-Clone Saga and was written out in favour of 'classic' stories when the relaunch happened. He had nothing to do with villains IIRC and simply moved away.



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    * Cissy Ironwood: Dated Peter a few times. She was a generic love interest penned by Claremont who didn't want to use Marcy Kane as it was about that time.


Cissie Ironwood actually made her debut (in MTU #80) two months before Marcy Kane. The way I read it, Cissie was created so that Claremont (and other writers of Marvel Team-Up) could write scenes where Peter has to run out on a date without having to refer to what was going on in the other two Spider-books. In MTU #79, for instance, Mary Jane had been shown kissing Peter under the mistletoe while Marv Wolfman on ASM and Mantlo on PPSSM still were pursuing Peter's affair with Betty Leeds. (To make matters worse, ASM was edited by a different guy (Wolfman) than MTU and PPSSM (Milgrom)).


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    * Do the Daily Grind cast count - Desiree, Buzz, etc.?


I don't see why not, but they have been in limbo an awful long time.


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    * There was that neighbour that Ben Reilly had, who people mistook IRL for Joystick for years. Who was she again?


Sorry, just plain forgot.


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    * Cissy Ironwood: Dated Peter a few times. She was a generic love interest penned by Claremont who didn't want to use Marcy Kane as it was about that time.



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    Cissie Ironwood actually made her debut (in MTU #80) two months before Marcy Kane. The way I read it, Cissie was created so that Claremont (and other writers of Marvel Team-Up) could write scenes where Peter has to run out on a date without having to refer to what was going on in the other two Spider-books. In MTU #79, for instance, Mary Jane had been shown kissing Peter under the mistletoe while Marv Wolfman on ASM and Mantlo on PPSSM still were pursuing Peter's affair with Betty Leeds. (To make matters worse, ASM was edited by a different guy (Wolfman) than MTU and PPSSM (Milgrom)).


I think that's fair. I was just going off memory, I just couldn't piece it together in my head accurately. I thought Marcy was first and Claremont didn't want to use her. It kind of makes sense what you're saying though.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cissy again, and her actually being given a character and background. All we knew of her was that she was dating Peter. Exceptionally generic!


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    I don't see why not, but they have been in limbo an awful long time.


I liked Desiree.


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    * There was that neighbour that Ben Reilly had, who people mistook IRL for Joystick for years. Who was she again?


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    Sorry, just plain forgot.


Carrie Bradley. The thing with her was there was a controversy for some time because Eric Gilette tied in Joystick and Carrie for the same character and other people on the net took it as gospel. Unfortunately it spread and for years Joystick's identity was screwed until Marvel cleared it up.

Carrie Bradley is just Ben Reilly's neighbour who dumped him because, ironically, he was late for a date because he fought Joystick. I think she only appeared once or twice though so I don't know if you can count her.

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    I think that's fair. I was just going off memory, I just couldn't piece it together in my head accurately. I thought Marcy was first and Claremont didn't want to use her. It kind of makes sense what you're saying though.



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    I wouldn't mind seeing Cissy again, and her actually being given a character and background. All we knew of her was that she was dating Peter. Exceptionally generic!


There is a little, but not much, and also pretty generic. She is a Scientist's Beautiful Daughter; her father Daniel is/was a professor who once was abducted (along with Cissy) in MTU Annual 2 by the Soviet Super Soldiers because their boss General Kutzov wanted to build an anti-matter bomb. They were saved by Spider-Man, the Hulk and Chris Claremont's character Alexey Vazhin (who was basically the USSR's Nick Fury and greatly admired by Colossus). Eventually Vazhin shot Professor Ironwood dead in order to save the world. Cissy later moved to an undisclosed location out west.

BTW, according to marvelunapp.com, "Cissy" is actually short for "Priscilla" - who knew? They also say: "Cissy is a nice girl, but driven by a passion for collector's items, like Eric Clapton's guitar pick and a piece of Beast's shirt."

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/ironciss.htm


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