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The Mandarin


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Who is your favorite villain in all of fiction?




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Grey Gargoyle


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In comics, I always answer Doctor Octopus.

(NB : I use the moniker of Grey Gargoyle because he is one of the few French characters of the Marvel Universe and because I like the Gargoyles cartoon).

In all of fiction, there is no name that immediately comes to mind.

Among the ones that I like in movies : Nosferatu, Joker (Nicholson & Ledger), Dracula (Coppola), the Strangers of Dark City, the Cenobites of Hellraiser, the Xenomorph, ...


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Superman's Pal

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The Cenobites weren't really villains though, were they? They were explorers in the dimension of pain and desire. Kirsty was able to reason with them the 3 times they crossed paths (movie 1, 2 and 6). Everyone else got on their bad side by messing with the status quo.



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Grey Gargoyle


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    The Cenobites weren't really villains though, were they? They were explorers in the dimension of pain and desire. Kirsty was able to reason with them the 3 times they crossed paths (movie 1, 2 and 6). Everyone else got on their bad side by messing with the status quo.


They are still the main antagonists of the whole saga and, even if they are masochists themselves, I am not certain that they care a lot about the moral compass of their victims.


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BattleLord


Member Since: Tue Jul 25, 2017


Delores Umbridge from Harry Potter -
Thoth Amon - Conan
Doctor Doom
Thanos WHEN - he fought for the love of Lady Death
Joker - How do you deal with violent madness (see Thanos above)but the Joker is madness without a purpose which puts him outside the box and thus much more difficult to handle mentally and emotionally.


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Chris1962


Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008


In comics it is a tie between Doctor Doom and the Joker.

In television, showing my age, Wo Fat from the original Hawaii Five-0.




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mmadoc


Member Since: Thu Sep 03, 2009



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    In comics it is a tie between Doctor Doom and the Joker.



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    In television, showing my age, Wo Fat from the original Hawaii Five-0.


Ha!
Wo Fat was a funny dude, almost winning , and somehow mysteriously
making his way back to Hawaii , just to be foiled again.

Darkseid and the Lord High Papal :
Bad to the Bone

(I will ignore the other purple hued bad guy of marvel )




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Thurisaz




I really have to break this down to the medium. Even then its hard given the different types of villains.

Literature: The Judge from Blood Meridian and Captain Ahab are both right up there as the larger than life, imposing villain. I always liked/hated Fernand from the Count of Monte Cristo as the vile little weasel type of villain. But I probably have to go with the classic here and give it to Iago from Othello. The conniving trickster is a great villain archetype.

Film: Coin flip for Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now or Tyler Durden from Fight Club.

Comics: Dr. Doom, Thanos and Loki. Probably going with Loki, again because I'm partial to tricksters.


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