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I got this issue, and one or two before it around when they came out, where Illyana died (from a mutant disease, I think), leading Colossus to join with Magneto. How exactly did she came back? And wasn't she a little kid when she died? I didn't really stay up on all X-Men news after that until, with the last 5-10 years, I learned Illyana was alive again, and older. Marvel.fandom.com explained it, but a lot of the characters mentioned I don't know about, so it was somewhat hard to follow along with.

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The REAL Illyana died in Uncanny X-Men #300. She is STILL dead.

After that, Belasco created a fake Illyana, because he lovesneeds his little Darkchilde, and that is who we have now. This was seen in New X-Men vol 2 #38-41. This fake Illyana had all of the memories of the original teenager, but not the soul. Even the screwy Belasco realized that without a soul, she was useless to him (can't summon his Elder Gods! WAH!). So, he threw her away (banished her).

She eventually got her soul back in New Mutants vol 3.




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    Quote:
    The REAL Illyana died in Uncanny X-Men #300. She is STILL dead.



    Quote:
    After that, Belasco created a fake Illyana, because he lovesneeds his little Darkchilde, and that is who we have now. This was seen in New X-Men vol 2 #38-41. This fake Illyana had all of the memories of the original teenager, but not the soul. Even the screwy Belasco realized that without a soul, she was useless to him (can't summon his Elder Gods! WAH!). So, he threw her away (banished her).



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    She eventually got her soul back in New Mutants vol 3.


Thanks, but I'm a little confused on one part: If she got the original Illyana's soul, doesn't that mean she came back to life?




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It's... wonky. The real Illyana is still dead. She died with part of her soul. The fake Illyana has the other part. Remember the Beatrix Medallion with the bloodstones? Her soul was in 5 fragments.

Frankly, Marvel never did get Illyana's post-Inferno story correctly. They chose to think the young Illyana that died was the same one, but by the story, she was not. Illyana was not simply deaged. Rahne picked an alternate Illyana from Limbo that had never become the Darkchylde and replaced the teenaged one. But I get it... it sometimes gives me headaches too.




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    Frankly, Marvel never did get Illyana's post-Inferno story correctly. They chose to think the young Illyana that died was the same one, but by the story, she was not. Illyana was not simply deaged. Rahne picked an alternate Illyana from Limbo that had never become the Darkchylde and replaced the teenaged one. But I get it... it sometimes gives me headaches too.


I'd always thought that the reasons why illyana could, and always would, cheat death, were there to be found in just this fact - that her very origins and ties to timeless Limbo mean she is not bound by the laws of time as we understand them.
As the ruler of Limbo she is supernatural, and outside of time. So in a way she is in line with Immortus. You can see her 'die' in one incarnation, but another will take her place.

God knows how many time the Reverse-Flash has been 'killed' over at DC, each time seems final, but then due to his nature as a time-traveller and whatnot he just ressurects and comes back in a reincarnated form.

At this point he is unkillable. And in principle I see Illyana as having the same 'out' that he, or Immortus, have.




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