Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Subj: Re: Are the Movie Avengers too white?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 at 04:15:31 pm EDT (Viewed 6 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Are the Movie Avengers too white?
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 at 11:24:12 am EDT (Viewed 179 times)



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    The civil rights movement started earlier. It just culminated in important actions being taken in the 60s. Anyway, the point here is that most superheroes from the 60s are white because of historical racism. Using only those heroes today is a reflection of that racism. I'm not saying Marvel should have made these characters a different race, but this cast is clearly not diverse and doesn't reflect the times today.


Important POLITICAL actions being taken in the sixties. Corporate America is always the very last to respond to changing times, because they have a lot of money on the line. Change scares them. They routinely wait until they see how entrenched the new times become before taking any action(for the most part). And I don't think you realize how offensive your opinion is. Claiming that superheroes from the sixties are only white because of systemic racism tars everyone with the same brush. And that includes Stan Lee, who had carte blanche when creating characters. In his own words, "I was the editor, all my ideas made it to print." Does that mean you believe Stan Lee is a racist? He created the Avengers, and the first ten were white. And then came T'Challa. Four years into the title, and they had their first black member, who stayed for the next sixty odd issues. It seems to me the black population was therefore represented(in numbers comparable to their percentage of the population).


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    I hope you're just being facetious and not serious.


Facetious? No. Chad very clearly pointed out the banner as being "white as the Klan in winter." Who chose that banner? Who didn't include any of the black cast members(Fury, Falcon and War Machine)? If Chad wants to call attention to the banner as being racist, then who's banner is it? If you're going to scream racism, then be clear about who you're accusing.


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    That analogy is completely ridiculous on the face of it. A basketball team is pulled together mostly based on the merit of the players. The Avengers are fictional characters who can be anything the writers want them to be.


Ah, so you're saying that diversity is only an issue when dealing with fictional characters? Good. Then you won't mind if Hollwood's casting is based on personal merit, and not the color of the actor's skin?


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