Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Reverend Meteor

In Reply To
Unstable Molecule

Location: Calgary, AB Canada
Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Posts: 3,085
Subj: Re: Avengers Who Are... Damaged Goods.
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 at 12:40:45 pm EDT (Viewed 3 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Avengers Who Are... Damaged Goods.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 at 01:26:05 pm EDT (Viewed 209 times)



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      Clint was Wanda's victim. She took advantage of him. He clearly was barely conscious.

    I find it hard to buy that Clint was the victim. Let's look at his state of mind:
    - Hurt that Wanda had hurt him.
    - Looking for closure that he couldn't get.
    - Confused that Wanda wasn't herself and couldn't give him answers.
    - Says, "She's not here" to Wanda, about Wanda.



It's that age old question. If you unknowingly have sex with a robot who thinks she has amnesia did you rape the robot or did the robot rape you?



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    That last point is the most damning in my opinion. He knew she wasn't herself. Yes, he was emotional and hurting. But when "Wanda" made advances, a friend would recognize he shouldn't respond. But he did.



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    I saw no evidence that Clint wasn't in his right mind, or was being controlled in any way. I saw plenty of evidence that Wanda didn't know who Hawkeye was, or have any recollection of her life as an Avenger.



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      And of course, now retconned into a Doom-controlled Wanda-bot.

    Yes. So it should now be impossible to claim that Wanda's magic influenced Clint's behavior. He was hurting and thought sex would make him feel better, and she seemed willing. But given her behavior, "she" was in no position to consent, and Clint should have known that.



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