Dave Galanter
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Nathan Summers

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Reverend Meteor

Subj: Re: Ultron question
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 at 05:03:25 pm EST (Viewed 193 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Ultron question
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 at 02:00:08 pm EST (Viewed 9 times)

    I did some digging....


    Ultron gets Jim Hammond's body from the Mad Thinker but realizes he is not up to the task of updating Hammond's body. Ultron realizes he needs Hammond's creator to update him and kidnaps Phineas Horton. When the Vision wakes up he has Jim's mind (Horton refused to delete it) and Vision attacks Ultron. Ultron defeats Vision and deletes the Jim Hammond personality and uses the Avengers memory tape he found to give Vision a blank personality.

It’s interesting that Byrne ended up retconning this in Vision Quest.

A pity as it would perhaps have been interesting if when Simon's engrams were wiped from Vizh that Jim became the dominant personality and we didn’t have the plot with the original Human Torch restored.

Mind you, I can sort of see where Byrne was coming from as I was likewise never that happy with the revelation that Vision was the original Torch. He was just too physically different, as were his powers. I would much prefer if he’d been revealed as Horton's other android, Adam II or Volton. Adam II at least had the red skin. And his ability to shift his density perhaps due to some plot my a golden age villain that had trapped Aarkus within the dormant android.

    Ultron didn't know whose mind he was giving to Vision he just found the tape in Pym's possession (maybe a later retcon changed this). The procedure was never meant to give Vision Simon's memories nor did that happen.

Which doesn’t make much sense since what did Ultron expect a memory tape to contain but another individual’s personality that might undermine his ability to control Vizh? Weak plotting IMHO! “Oh, I just found a memory tape, I’ll use that and nothing can possibly go wrong!”

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