Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Subj: Re: All of them.
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 at 01:21:40 pm EST (Viewed 311 times)
Reply Subj: Re: All of them.
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 at 08:24:27 am EST (Viewed 313 times)

    IMO that is not a consequence of the FF's "heroic nature" but of the fact that they operate as a "public" team and that they are rich. As already shown in the Silver Age, people in the Marvel Universe have the option of suing them for damages they cause in civil courts of law and they have to respect the law of the land. (Thus their unrestrained behaviour in FF #1 may actually show their inner nature more immediately than their restrained behaviour later).
    That they send money or construction crews to people whose property they damage is only sensible as it avoids time-consuming trials, lawyers' fees, legal costs and the negative publicity fallout they would otherwise risk. (For that reason the FF also don't do that much damage to the property of bad guys even though you would excuse that).

I often have trouble understanding why you argue the points that you argue. In this instance, do you think it's false that Marvel heroes in the Silver Age were actually heroic? Do you think it's false that they tried their best not to harm civilians or their property - and that they did this for the simple reason that it was the right thing to do?

Even in the Bronze Age and somewhat beyond -
I would contend that even the Punisher (maybe especially the Punisher) would restrain himself from damaging a civilian's house or store unless a life was on the line. Wolverine, if attacked by some jerks in a bar, would smash a few tables. But he wasn't the jerk who started the fight.

Intentionally destroying some innocent person's property just because you can is an abuse of power. It's villain behavior. If I had seen a hero do it in the Silver Age or most of the Bronze Age it would have shocked the heck out of me. But why are we even debating this? This is one of those instances where I don't understand your motivation. Unless you have evidence of Iron Man (before he became a drunk or after he was sober) intentionally repulsoring some civilian's car into scap metal just to let off steam, or Thor obliterating a billboard because it advertised some product he didn't like, or something equally shocking, then you don't really have a reason to dispute the essentially heroic nature of Marvel heroes under Silver Age and most Bronze Age writers. Which is the only point I was making in this context.

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