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Subj: Re: To what extent do you think of these characters as Avengers?
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 at 08:32:42 am EST (Viewed 312 times)
Reply Subj: Re: To what extent do you think of these characters as Avengers?
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 at 07:48:18 am EST (Viewed 324 times)

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      'Once an Avenger, always an Avenger."


        Maybe Avenger X should have her status wiped clean. Sentry is possibly another, but his character is a bit weird, his time with New and Dark Avengers was a bit confusing far as his origin.

    Sentry should note be counted as an Avenger. He's too dangerous. Maybe the Avengers could institute a "probationary" status.


      I wish they would clarify many characters who have been on teams. A-Force was supposed to be a female Avengers group, but it never seemed to happen, though did Medusa have Avengers status during AXIS when the Avengers were inverted and Hercules Gods of War ?

    The idea of Medusa as an Avenger is ludicrous. Her first loyalty will always be to Black Bolt, her second to Attilan, and her third to her cousins. The Avengers will always at best be a distant fourth.

Maybe Attilan first, Black Bolt second (she sort of showed this post-Infinity). But I don't think that means much. I'm pretty sure Cap's first loyalty is to the United States. Think about it: if the Avengers decided to pull an Authority? Cap's taking them out, or dying trying.

And every spouse should be a primary loyalty. If I were a cop, my first loyalty would still be to my wife before anyone wearing a badge, unless she did something to end that loyalty.

And family and friends come before any institution, as well. So, it's not so ludicrous. Those are just normal priorities, imo.

Black Panther makes a fine Avenger, as well, imo.
Namor would... if he weren't such a [bleep].

I think you really meant "duty" not "loyalty." I think heads of state have other things to concern themselves so shouldn't try to be heroes, except to direct threats against their nations.

The old question again and again: Who is an Avenger and who is not! some of us count Spider Man, Cage, Wolverine or Sentry as Avengers, others not. It could only made clear by Marvel or Steve Rogers, Wasp, Iron Man, maybe Hank Pym, Hawkeye, Thor ...
Yes, the problem ist, too many writers make socalled heroes to Avengers (Medusa, Academy, A-Force, Ex-Nihilo, Abyss, Nightmask, Starbrand, Daredevil, Storm, Sandman, Lifecry and many others, but then the are gone (forever?)Not acting as an Avenger anymore or only many years later (like Starfox) Well, Lightning was there in "No surrender", but then gone again. With a Team of seven Avengers, how can we see all the underused Avengers, we count or do not count yet?
Please Marvel, stop to bring in 10 or 20 new Avengers or Avengers Teams every year, if you bring em, keep ém (A.I.Avengers, A-Force, Young Avengers, Dark Avengers, West Coast Avengers,Great Lakes Avengers ...)

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