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Mr Bojo

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Subj: Re: To what extent do you think of these characters as Avengers?
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 at 05:49:35 pm EST (Viewed 269 times)
Reply Subj: Re: To what extent do you think of these characters as Avengers?
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2018 at 03:57:22 pm EST (Viewed 281 times)

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      The idea of Medusa as an Avenger is ludicrous. Her first loyalty will always be to Black Bolt, her second to Attilan, and her third to her cousins. The Avengers will always at best be a distant fourth.


    But how does that make her different than Black Panther, Thor or Namor?


Namor as an actual Avenger is ludicrous, just as Namor as an actual X-Man is ludicrous. He should be identified as a potential ally, a useful and brave entity who can be counted on and trusted under the right circumstances.

He wasn't ludicrous as a Defender because the Defenders were never anything more than potential allies to one another. It was entirely personal. Namor would help Doctor Strange, or the Hulk, or the Silver Surfer, because he knew they (even the Hulk) would generally return the favor.

The Defenders as a team concept made a great deal of sense. I'd like to see it return. I know we have a mini-series (or series of one-shots) coming. I'd love to see more come out of that.

Thor, meanwhile, is committed to the protection of Midgard (Earth). Because of that commitment, he makes perfect sense as an Avenger. Heck, he was a founding member, and with good reason. If Loki hadn't done what he did, Thor would likely have founded the Avengers any way.

The Black Panther's membership has been explained as pretty much a spy mission. The Avengers at this point know this, if I'm not mistaken, but since the Panther fulfills his Avenger role with honor and courage, all is accepted.


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    To me being an Avenger is not something you are but something you do. Several Avengers have other responsibilities like their own kingdom or ongoing series or membership in another group or being a parent that takes priority over their Avengers job.


Yes, but with Medusa we're looking at an extreme. Medusa has no loyalty to the human race. We might as well ask Ronan the Accuser or Super Skrull to join.




If they are offered membership and accept they're Avengers.

My theory on the Defenders is that they were formed to keep an eye on the Hulk, Namor and Doctor Strange, both part of the Illuminati. In one story discuss having a team of heroes in a different location. When I read this, I thought maybe they also formed the Defenders to keep tabs/an on eye on the Hulk and have him do some good.



MrBojo


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