Dave Galanter
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Grey Gargoyle

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Menshevik

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Subj: Re: Catwoman and Marvel's Black Cat
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 at 03:42:47 pm EDT (Viewed 80 times)
Reply Subj: Catwoman and Marvel's Black Cat
Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 at 12:31:23 pm EDT (Viewed 83 times)



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    I'm no expert on Catwoman, but I have been told that the similarities between Catwoman and the Black Cat weren't as great in 1979 compared to how they later became (e.g. at that time Catwoman did not wear a skin-tight bodysuit). In her first appearances the Black Cat also made a great deal of her supposed bad-luck powers.

    Cf. these articles (I got them from a quick "Catwoman Black Cat rip-off" websearch):

    https://www.polygon.com/2018/10/25/18015408/black-cat-catwoman-ripoff-spider-man-batman

    https://whatculture.com/comics/10-superheroes-you-totally-forgot-were-rip-offs?page=5

    FWIW, the second article poses the question "Who Ripped Off Who?", while the first one makes the interesting observation that Catwoman had been completely absent from the comics between 1954 and 1966 (this is backed up by the relevant wikipedia article) - so much for her "iconic" status, I guess.


They are entitled to their opinions but, in my case, it is very simple: who are Catwoman & Black Cat?
The sexy cat burglar that our urban hero has to hunt because she is an outlaw but, at the same time, he cannot help being attracted to because, well, she is so sexy. So, he has to stop her but, actually, he wants to redeem her because he would prefer to date her rather than put her into jail.

In my opinion, it is exactly the same pattern: "catch me if you can, my love", an amorous parade between the thief & the thief catcher.

Catwoman was already inspired by Irene Adler.

In the case of Spider-Man & Black Cat, the supposed bad-luck powers were added because of the infamous Parker luck.

Besides, the Catwomen of the Batman tv show (1966-1968) did wear black skin-tight bodysuits.


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    Not to mention that female characters dressed up as cats are extremely common. Felicia Hardy is not even the first superhero comic character called the Black Cat (before her there was Harvey's Black Cat (Linda Turner), a character who goes back to the Golden Age), and Marvel already had the Cat (later Tigra) and Hellcat before the Black Cat. And you could say that Catwoman's black catsuit from Batman: Year One (the one with ears and a tail) ripped off Miss Fury's suit (which, incidentally, also inspired John Romita when he redesigned the Black Widow's costume).


Yes, they are. DC Comics also has the Cheetah.

In my case, it is the cumulation of the "catch me if you can" amorous parade and the cat motif that leads me to say that Black Cat is a rip-off.


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    Also, it seems it is easier these days to justify such cases as parody, at least in America.

Yes.
You'll notice that Squadron Supreme has been around for quite some time.
At first, I think that the Squadron Sinister didn't pose any problem because they are supervillains.
But the Squadron Supreme...?
https://www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-558/
Lol! (^_^)



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