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Omar Karindu

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Blue Beetle

Subj: Re: Underused rogues
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 at 09:23:38 am EST (Viewed 10 times)
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> > > Which rarely seen Bat baddie would you most like appearing in an upcoming Batman/Detective story? I dont know if he has been seen recently or not, but id love a Dini written Two Face story sometime soon.
> >
> >
> > Hugo Strange.
>
> Amen. Hugo's my favorite, and I'd love to see him get hold of Jason Todd...


I recently got to read Hugo Strange's first appearance, back in the Golden Age. I liked it a lot.


> > Also those three guys who wear animal heads, I think it's fox, shark, and something else, maybe a vulture, I forget. I think a couple of them might be dead, but anyone can wear an animal head, so I'd like to see a return of the concept, but expanded a bit, not too far, don't make them meta-humans, but take it a step further than just a guy with a head on. Restraint is the key here. Turn them into meta-humans and you miss the point. But the shark guy having three rows of filed teeth and liking to bite people, that was perfect.
>
> They were in a Detective arc not too long ago, now in the Death in the City trade. I'm fond of the Terrible Trio myself though. \:\)


I think it was the Detective arc that revealed the three rows of teeth. \:\)

I'm partial to these guys because the very first Silver Age Batman comic I ever got to read had them in it! But also they scratch my itch for flamboyant gangsters. \:\)


> > I basically want two kinds of foes: mad scientists and flamboyant gangsters. Oh, and a voodoo witch doctor. Batman should have a voodoo witch doctor for an enemy. Does he have one?
>
> I'm pretty sure the Obeah Man's dead, but he DID have one. \:\) That one even killed Robin's mom, didn't he?


I have a vague recollection of that name, but no picture to go with it, except one that I think I'm conjuring up out of my own imagination.


> I'm apparently the same sort of fan as you. More mad scientists like Hugo Strange as a general rule. I'd love to see Dr. Phosphorus again, or Sterling Silversmith as well. The upcoming return of the Wrath is a pleasing turn of events for me as well.


Mad scientists are perfect enemies for Batman.

I'd like him to have a Fu-Manchu kind of enemy. Heck, DC should stick it to Marvel and get the rights to Fu-Manchu himself! He'd make a terrific foe for Batman. I wouldn't bother with Dennis Nayland Smith, since Batman would be filling that role. But I think I'd find a way to make Alfred prominent in the stories. Wouldn't it be wild if Alfred, as a younger man, had a romantic fling with Fu-Manchu's daughter? \:\)

Hey, let's face it, "Batman versus Fu-Manchu" would make a great movie! \:\)


> Oh... and let's borrow Gentleman Ghost and Shadow-Thief for Hawkman for an arc, shall we? \:\)


Hmm. I'll have to think about those. They have super powers, so as a general rule I'd avoid them, but Gentleman Ghost seems a nice opportunity for a Batman/Deadman team-up. Actually, my recollection of Gentleman Ghost is hazy. Is he a real ghost?



> > > > Which rarely seen Bat baddie would you most like appearing in an upcoming Batman/Detective story? I dont know if he has been seen recently or not, but id love a Dini written Two Face story sometime soon.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hugo Strange.
> >
> > Amen. Hugo's my favorite, and I'd love to see him get hold of Jason Todd...
>
>
> I recently got to read Hugo Strange's first appearance, back in the Golden Age. I liked it a lot.

I've never read his first appearance, where he uses the fog machine, but the Monster Men story from Batman #1 is a true classic.

>
> > > Also those three guys who wear animal heads, I think it's fox, shark, and something else, maybe a vulture, I forget. I think a couple of them might be dead, but anyone can wear an animal head, so I'd like to see a return of the concept, but expanded a bit, not too far, don't make them meta-humans, but take it a step further than just a guy with a head on. Restraint is the key here. Turn them into meta-humans and you miss the point. But the shark guy having three rows of filed teeth and liking to bite people, that was perfect.
> >
> > They were in a Detective arc not too long ago, now in the Death in the City trade. I'm fond of the Terrible Trio myself though. \:\)
>
>
> I think it was the Detective arc that revealed the three rows of teeth. \:\)

And seemed to dispose of the Shark in favor of Warren "Great" White.

> I'm partial to these guys because the very first Silver Age Batman comic I ever got to read had them in it! But also they scratch my itch for flamboyant gangsters. \:\)

It does seem as if Two-Face and Black Mask -- before he became a charbroiled version of the Red Skull -- have sewn that niche up for most writers. It's a shame, since those guys are utterly nuts and lack the sense of cleverness the Trio have at their best.

> > > I basically want two kinds of foes: mad scientists and flamboyant gangsters. Oh, and a voodoo witch doctor. Batman should have a voodoo witch doctor for an enemy. Does he have one?
> >
> > I'm pretty sure the Obeah Man's dead, but he DID have one. \:\) That one even killed Robin's mom, didn't he?
>
> I have a vague recollection of that name, but no picture to go with it, except one that I think I'm conjuring up out of my own imagination.

He was a creepy voudon type with a top hat and ragged coat, though of course his "magic" was simpyl a knowledge of native poisons and so on.

>
> > I'm apparently the same sort of fan as you. More mad scientists like Hugo Strange as a general rule. I'd love to see Dr. Phosphorus again, or Sterling Silversmith as well. The upcoming return of the Wrath is a pleasing turn of events for me as well.
>
> Mad scientists are perfect enemies for Batman.
>
> I'd like him to have a Fu-Manchu kind of enemy. Heck, DC should stick it to Marvel and get the rights to Fu-Manchu himself! He'd make a terrific foe for Batman. I wouldn't bother with Dennis Nayland Smith, since Batman would be filling that role. But I think I'd find a way to make Alfred prominent in the stories. Wouldn't it be wild if Alfred, as a younger man, had a romantic fling with Fu-Manchu's daughter? \:\)

In other, words, Ra's al Ghul and his daughter Fah Lo Su -- err, Talia. Prior to the current arc, Ra's basically is Fu transplanted to the Middle East, isn't he? He's a mysterious immortal from an "exotic" part o the world with a pseudoscience, pseudomagic setup and a daughter who ambiguously loves the hero.

> Hey, let's face it, "Batman versus Fu-Manchu" would make a great movie! \:\)
>
>
> > Oh... and let's borrow Gentleman Ghost and Shadow-Thief for Hawkman for an arc, shall we? \:\)
>
> Hmm. I'll have to think about those. They have super powers, so as a general rule I'd avoid them, but Gentleman Ghost seems a nice opportunity for a Batman/Deadman team-up. Actually, my recollection of Gentleman Ghost is hazy. Is he a real ghost?

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- Omar Karindu

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