Dave Galanter
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zvelf

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Omar Karindu

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Subj: Re: I pretty much agree with everything you said...
Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 at 07:54:26 pm EDT (Viewed 124 times)
Reply Subj: Re: If you were the current writer of a Batman book, what would you do with the Penguin ?
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 at 07:29:40 pm EDT (Viewed 180 times)


...but especially this part:


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      What do you think would make him an interesting villain ?



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    The original concept of the character is that he's a sort of parody of what Bruce Wayne pretends to be: the Penguin, in his earliest appearances, *seems* even more foppish and harmless than Bruce Wayne, but he's actually a hypercompetent and murderously cold-blooded criminal mastermind.



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    He's also a true aesthete, not in the way the Joker some=times seems to be, but in the way of someone who can quote half of the Great Books of world literature off the top of his head. Of course, he's also the sort who thinks you read those texts solely so that you can quote them. He's someone who's mistaken shallow erudition for culture, who talks about beauty and art but only because it fuels his vanity.



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    In his first appearance, he calls a perfect crime "a work of art," and I thinkt hat's long sicne been lost in most portrayals of the character. He's not nuts; rather he's something of a deconstruction of the gentlemen thieves of the pulps, guys like Raffles and the Saint and Zenith the Albino. He's a squat ugly man who kills if he needs to, but he imagines himself a sort of dashing romantic gentleman of crime and also comports himself that way.



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    His affectations and actions should reflect that: the one thing I don't like about Brubaker's portrayal is that his Penguin lapses into gangster lingo behind clsoed doors. I see the Penguin as a guy who never does that, because that's not how he imagines himself or how he wants to be perceived.



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      Could he be portrayed as a very smart villain (a "Napoleon" of crime, for example) ?



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    Very much so, yes. But more than that, he's someone who imagines hismelf in almost exactly thsoe terms. Moriarty was a well-read genius and a professor, and the Penguin probably counts old Jim as one of his literary idols...if he doesn't think he's already surpassed Doyle's limited vision, of course.






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