Dave Galanter
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Quinn

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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Subj: Re: Batgirl #7.
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 01:08:33 am EDT (Viewed 5 times)
Reply Subj: Batgirl #7.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 at 06:19:04 pm EDT (Viewed 289 times)

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Can we have one issue that doesn't refer to The Killing Joke? It's becoming beyond a joke!
I noticed that the intro on the first page even refers to that storyline so I'm wondering if we'll ever see the end of it.

The last page of #7 really got to me too and not in a good way. I read the issue and straight away thought "here we go again."
I feel like grabbing Barbara and telling her "get over it!"

Personally I'm over it. I want a Batgirl thats gritty and fun. This series is just female angst.
Gail Simone's on my Facebook feed. Should I write to her asking what I want from the Batgirl comic or would that be too harsh?

I Bryne read this issue, so I can't comment too directly. I also read that Simone said on her Tumblr site that the Killing Joke references were editorially mandated.

I have read Simone use that excuse several times when things haven't gone well on her books. That tells me two things. Simone has no power at DC. No one tells Morrison or Johns what to do. Second DC doesn't know what it's doing. I can see replacing Steph with Barb to make the book match the t-shirts. That's where the money is. The last two Batgirls on Batman and Batman:TAS were Barbara Gordon, as well as the TV show from the 1960s. Far more people know Batgirl from the non-comics source. Cross medium synergy just makes sense. They do it much better in Japan. The anime closely follows the manga,not so much here.

I can see why execs might be worried that someone who likes Batgirl from tv would be confused by picking up a book and seeing a blonde or Asian character, and thus not buy the book. I get that, I truly do. I might hate that fact, but I understand it. It knocked Steph off a book that was an artistic (as I define the term) success. Sales success? Not so much. If Bryan Miller was selling 50,000 Steph Batgirls a month, Steph would still be there.

Having said that, the purpose of the reboot was to start from scratch. DC editorial seems to think that starting from scratch means referencing a story that happened a quarter of a century ago. (I know it happened 24 and not 25 years ago, but I rounded up for purpose of poetry of language). I guess the thinking is Alan Moore is a god, so bring more god to the book. Problem with that is that by making the book all about the Killing Joke, you stifle innovation, tie it to a controverial, often unpopular refrigerator comics moment while destroying a quarter century character growth. Again, defeats purpose of reboot.

Second point. Gail, if they keep telling you what to do and you don't want to do it, keep your mouth shut. You only get to complain after you have the guts to say, I am not going to write stories I don't want to write. Because when your heart isn't in it, it shows. I can understand an editor shooting down an idea (hey, let's have Gwen Stacy give birth to Peter Parker's children and have those children grow up unnaturally fast and hate Peter. I JMS am a genius). Editors should have the right to shoot bad ideas down. In comics, writers are caretakers of characters. At least that's the case when you're not self-published.

Or I could be wrong. But Batgirl just isn't fun, and that's what Batgirl is supposed to be.


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