Dave Galanter
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Subj: Re: Batman: Three Jokers #3
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 at 05:35:35 pm EST (Viewed 53 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Batman: Three Jokers #3
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 at 04:47:58 am EST (Viewed 57 times)




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    Well the three jokers all acted basically the same and seemed to share the same memories

Which is my point. It makes no sense.

The crux of Geoff Johns' plot was Batman's bafflement and disbelief at the suggestion there were three versions of the Joker out there. Related to this is Johns' reveal that since the very start of his career as the Batman and their first meeting Bruce Wayne had in fact deduced the Joker's original name and identity, but supressed it to protect the wife and child.
So by Bruce Wayne's own admission in the final issue the older dourer 'criminal' Joker was the first he encountered back in the day, and he never observed the obvious difference when the younger and more energetic 'Clown' Joker turned up...? That is absurd. He apparently knew who the Joker's real family were, the mans age, that he was a failed comedian who fell into a world of serious crime and ultimately a vat of toxic chemicals. But he never noticed the obvious fact that his original 'criminal' Joker he first met was a very different man altogether to this other, younger, man - the man who supposedly fell into the Vat while dressed as the Red Hood????

Back in the day an editor, or editor in chief, would proofread all scripts before publication and spot oversights like this. But as I said above this is an example of why it is Geoff Johns' writing in the last decade or so has been in decline. Once upon a time he would have been aware and fresh enough that he would have spotted such a massive plot-hole and worked to address it. These days though being involved in media and very busy means he is a much less hungry writer. And no one editing wants to take him on and actually edit his work, to scrutinise it... and make suggestions that could improve the plot.
I would add that the distasteful way in which Geoff Johns uses Jason Todd's borderline sociopathic tendencies to undermine Batman's strict code of professional conduct and moral stance should be something to be criticised and challenged as well. Why it was left to Barbara Gordon to be the moral figurehead here while Batman knowingly turns a blind eye to Todd's murder of the captured Joker is left unexplained in the story, Batman's weakness in the face of Jason Todd's constant provocation is unacceptable by the time he is seen to be able to murder captured criminals like this example. He can hardly come down on the likes of Deadshot or Tommy Monaghan for their criminality when he is habitually supressing his sense of duty and any personal response to Jason Todd's extremes.


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    However I think Joker is simply working with the proto-tech he would later use in Batman Beyond on Tim Drake. Joker seems determined to make himself the literal eternal nemesis of Batman



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    So this tech is likely somehow overwriting the target DNA with his own, and he is implanting his memories or brainwaves into them.

That is nowhere in the script of this series. Generally the Joker injects his 'venom' and it kills its victim. Even if they miraculously survive it doesn't mean they are converted into literal clones of him - i.e. Unhinged criminal masterminds dressing in eccentric Purple suits and obsessing over Batman and Gotham...




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