Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 at 11:10:55 am EDT
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...since a good majority of Hudlin's detractors, especially on this board, do so while asking for the return of Priest (another black writer), it seems even less of a "racial" issue.

> > > > We had a heated debate a while ago. But why wouldn't you think your views or things that I have read by you would be deemed just a little racially insensitive?
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> > > ...given that the crux of my complaints against Hudlin have been that he's writing Panther poorly, and his writing doesn't do the character justice.
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> > it be that I don't accept Hudlin's word as the end all, be all on racial matters?
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> > Nobody said he was..I agree with that BUT, he has his flaws as do all writers, but I think he points out societal realities that cannot be avoided...
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> Not very well, as others have observed.
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> > Just think about it even if Hudlin's writing sucks, your commentary is consistent with things most black people hear when a black character is written in an empowering fashion. I don't see why anybody wouldn't bring that up.
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> Because not once has my arguement been 'Panther is too strong, too cool', or some other self justifying (on the part of Hudlin) rant. Rather, my arguements are that Hudlin lessens Panther with his attempts at making Panther stronger. It's not that Hudlin is making Panther stronger that bothers me, rather, it's the fact that he's not doing the job right!
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> Seems to me that's a bit too abstract for Hudlin supporters to really wrap their minds around.

> ...since a good majority of Hudlin's detractors, especially on this board, do so while asking for the return of Priest (another black writer), it seems even less of a "racial" issue.

It has little to do with the race of the writer as much as it does the portrayal of the black character. A large number of fans of most characters praise writers for making the character more unbeatable, except for Panther fans. Apparently, as Priest did, Panther should always be a tad below top tier ground level characters, or at most even with them. No one on this board has complained about T'Challa taking a beating in the recent EMH2. Any other board would have shown complaints. I only saw complaints on Hudlin's board.

Panther fans hardly ever argue his case on the Battle Board. It seems that T'Challa is fine as long as doesn't rise to a certain level of formidability. I realize that formidability is not everything when it comes to characterization and is probably not the most important thing, but I question the double standard.


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