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DH the Lurker

Subj: Re: gah! its out of order!
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 at 07:00:31 pm EDT
Reply Subj: gah! its out of order!
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 at 04:09:13 pm EDT

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> And recommended contents for Volume 1:
>
> Fantastic Four #52-53 (the first appearance of BP)
> The lead story from Fantastic Four Annual #5
> Tales of Suspense #97-99 (30 pages total)
> Captain America #100 (concludes ToS story)
> Avengers #52 (BP joins the Avengers)
> Avengers #62 ("The Monarch and the Man-Ape"; reprinted in Jungle Action #5)
> Avengers #87 ("The Origin of the Black Panther")
> Jungle Action #6-22, 24 (#23 reprinted a BP crossover in Daredevil #69)
> Black Panther #14-15 (continued the Jungle Action Klan story)
> Marvel Premiere #51-53 (concluded the Jungle Action Klan story)

It skips over the Kirby issues! I know the Jungle Action Klan story is important to keep together, so I propose only the first arc of Jungle action be in essential BP volume one, and the whole arc and the ensuing issues of Kirby panther be in volume 2!

So, recommended contents for BLACK PANTHER VOLUME 1:

Fantastic Four #52-53 (the first appearance of BP)
The lead story from Fantastic Four Annual #5
Tales of Suspense #97-99 (30 pages total)
Captain America #100 (concludes ToS story)
Avengers #52 (BP joins the Avengers)
Avengers #62 ("The Monarch and the Man-Ape"; reprinted in Jungle Action #5)
Daredevil #52 "The Night of the Panther"
Daredevil #69 "A Life on the Line"
Avengers #87 ("The Origin of the Black Panther")
Astonishing Tales #6-7
Avengers #112 "The Lion God Lives"
Marvel Team-Up #20 "Dinosaurs On Broadway"
Jungle Action #6-18
Daredevil Annual #4


Black Panther Volume 2:

Jungle Action #19-24 (cover only for 23)
Black Panther #1-15
Marvel Premiere #51-53
Marvel Team-Up #100 "Cry - Vengeance" (Storm & BP)

Volume 3 can include the MCP issues, Panther's Prey, the LS, solo avengers, and the like



DH the Lurker
(Why is Dazzler getting an Essential before BP?)

> It skips over the Kirby issues! I know the Jungle Action Klan story is important to keep together, so I propose only the first arc of Jungle action be in essential BP volume one, and the whole arc and the ensuing issues of Kirby panther be in volume 2!

Yeah, I know it skips Kirby. I took that into consideration when I originally put this list together a year and a half ago. I had a few reasons for doing so.

First is that the Kirby issues very much stand alone. They don't, to my knowledge, utilize much prior BP continuity, and Kirby established a bunch of new material; and then what Kirby established was subsequently ignored and contradicted by the BP stories that followed. Second is that the Kirby issues have already been collected by themselves, which is where I think they belong.

Third is that they mess up the publication order, and make it difficult to properly fill out a volume. You've included some of issues of other books where BP guest-starred, and I originally considered using those myself. But they're just ordinary guest-spots, not written by any regular BP writer. And the Astonishing Tales issues aren't even self-contained. I'm pretty sure DC's policy with Showcase Presents would exclude these issues, so that's what I had in mind.

> (Why is Dazzler getting an Essential before BP?)

I happen to think that's the wrong question to ask. With its Showcase Presents program, DC released volumes of Metamorpho, Elongated Man, Jonah Hex, House of Mystery, and even the Haunted Tank long before they got around to the first volumes of Wonder Woman and the Flash.

I like seeing Marvel do some niche titles, and I wish they'd step outside the superhero market and collect some of their Western books. So the mere fact that Dazzler got an Essential first doesn't bother me. Rather, the problem is that Marvel has had the Essential program for 10 years, and still hasn't done a Black Panther book (or Nick Fury, or Namor). In its first two years, I think DC will have had a volume for every first-tier and second-tier Silver Age superhero.

Marvel's fault lies in pacing its Essentials so poorly, focusing so heavily on its big-name characters and neglecting its second-tier. Thus resulting in things like 4 volumes of Wolverine that stretch halfway into the '90s, but only 2 volumes each of Silver Age Iron Man and Dr. Strange.


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