Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
He was loved.

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sightunseen

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Loren

Subj: Re: This is actually a common failing for non-Africans of all ethnicities...
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 07:18:33 pm EDT (Viewed 6 times)
Reply Subj: Re: This is actually a common failing for non-Africans of all ethnicities...
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 11:05:53 am EDT (Viewed 6 times)

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> Since -- thanks mainly* to Conrad -- the Belgian Congo is for many people the emblem of the colonization of Africa, I felt safe in my presumption that he made Klaw Belgian rather than the potentially more clever Dutch because the Belgian colonization is canonized as the worst in a certain sense.**

Oh, I'm sure you're right about his intent. It's just that his decision doesn't, in any way, sync up with the actual history of South Africa. He chose to give the Klaw family a new history in African colonization, he chose to set great-granddaddy Klaw in South Africa instead of some other part of the continent (I think Wakanda was traditionally closer to central Africa), and in his introduction in the tpb, he outright stated that great-granddaddy Klaw was a Boer.

And as you point out, that doesn't work. The Belgians weren't Boers, and even if they were, the Boers weren't oppressive colonizers. Heck, the whole thing would've worked better if he'd set it in the Congo, but he didn't. If he did any research at all, it was really shoddy.

> > Since -- thanks mainly* to Conrad -- the Belgian Congo is for many people the emblem of the colonization of Africa, I felt safe in my presumption that he made Klaw Belgian rather than the potentially more clever Dutch because the Belgian colonization is canonized as the worst in a certain sense.**
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> Oh, I'm sure you're right about his intent. It's just that his decision doesn't, in any way, sync up with the actual history of South Africa. He chose to give the Klaw family a new history in African colonization, he chose to set great-granddaddy Klaw in South Africa instead of some other part of the continent (I think Wakanda was traditionally closer to central Africa), and in his introduction in the tpb, he outright stated that great-granddaddy Klaw was a Boer.
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> And as you point out, that doesn't work. The Belgians weren't Boers, and even if they were, the Boers weren't oppressive colonizers. Heck, the whole thing would've worked better if he'd set it in the Congo, but he didn't. If he did any research at all, it was really shoddy.



So your telling me that the Boers were not oppressive colonists, yet they pushed the Zulu and several other tribes into smaller territories, killed millions of Africans with the help of the British and created what became the apartheid system that oppressed these people well into modern times?

Damn, I hate to see what you call oppressive


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