Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Thatguy

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Ben

Subj: Re: My two cents
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 at 09:50:21 am EDT
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> In terms of genius, Killmonger is by no means lacking. He's created cult followings easily and is cunning enough to exploit that to his advantage. He understands the inter related political/economic work better than some of Marvel's mega scientists and is pretty charismatic. If a writer used those qualities, Killmonger could be very threatening indeed.
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Exactly!


> But at the same time, Killmonger's main motivation is taking down T'Challa. He's like a cruise missile and everything he does is towards that single mission.
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For now it is, but who's to say that can't change?


> To be a major villain, Killmonger needs a larger motivation than tearing down T'Challa. Sabretooth, Dr. Doom, et all don't always fight their arch foes and can comfortably fit into stories lacking them. As it stands and unless it's changed, the same cannot be said for Killmonger. And until that hurdle is overcome, Killmonger can only be a primary Panther villain.
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Well the villians you mentioned all started out being a foe for one particular hero. Doctor Doom started off as an FF villian and later branched out to fight other heroes, Sabretooth was primarily a Power Man and Iron Fist villian before becoming Wolvie's chief foe and Kingpin was Spidey's villian and now he's more known as Daredevil's adversary. Killmonger, IMO, has the potential to crossover to other foes, it's just that throughout the past several years, Black Panther was more or less treated as third stringer rather than an A-lister so his foes, unfortunately are given the same treatment (with the exception of Klaw, but that's another story).

Alot people on different boards may talk trash about Hudlin for whatever reason, but he's making a serious effort of elevating B.P. to A-list status so hopefully his villians will benefit from that.


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> > After reading the recent issue of Black Panther, I think Erik Killmonger has the potential to become a major foe in the Marvel Universe. He not only has the strength but genius and weaponry. I hope Hudlin develops him to a force to be reckoned with. I like to see Killmonger go up against other heroes like Captain America (Winter Soldier), The Mighty Avengers, The Fantastic Four and others. More importantly I like to see him elevated to the ranks of the master villian pantheon with the likes of Doctor Doom, Red Skull, Magneto, Loki, The Kingpin, The Wizard, The Mandarin and whoever else I left out.
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> > I like to see him bring Casinos to Niganda to boost the economy and tourism and maybe an Amusement Park.

> > In terms of genius, Killmonger is by no means lacking. He's created cult followings easily and is cunning enough to exploit that to his advantage. He understands the inter related political/economic work better than some of Marvel's mega scientists and is pretty charismatic. If a writer used those qualities, Killmonger could be very threatening indeed.
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> Exactly!
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> > But at the same time, Killmonger's main motivation is taking down T'Challa. He's like a cruise missile and everything he does is towards that single mission.
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> For now it is, but who's to say that can't change?

Never said it couldn't, I'm just hard pressed to see how. T'Challa hate aside, Killmonger's a pretty swell guy with few if any hang ups.
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> > To be a major villain, Killmonger needs a larger motivation than tearing down T'Challa. Sabretooth, Dr. Doom, et all don't always fight their arch foes and can comfortably fit into stories lacking them. As it stands and unless it's changed, the same cannot be said for Killmonger. And until that hurdle is overcome, Killmonger can only be a primary Panther villain.
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> Well the villians you mentioned all started out being a foe for one particular hero. Doctor Doom started off as an FF villian and later branched out to fight other heroes, Sabretooth was primarily a Power Man and Iron Fist villian before becoming Wolvie's chief foe and Kingpin was Spidey's villian and now he's more known as Daredevil's adversary. Killmonger, IMO, has the potential to crossover to other foes, it's just that throughout the past several years, Black Panther was more or less treated as third stringer rather than an A-lister so his foes, unfortunately are given the same treatment (with the exception of Klaw, but that's another story).

Well, with Doom, he wants to conquer the world. You can trasplant that into any title. Sabretooth acts as a better foil to Wolverine, that's why he took off as a character.

But Killmonger? I'm hard pressed to see him hassling another hero team in a way that doesn't revolve around T'Challa.
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> Alot people on different boards may talk trash about Hudlin for whatever reason, but he's making a serious effort of elevating B.P. to A-list status so hopefully his villians will benefit from that.

He's trying as best he knows how, I freely concede that. Though I'd emphasize the difference between 'as best he knows how' and 'actually succeeding' ;\)


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