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Subj: Re: a more specific question about the film...
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 at 06:12:32 pm EST (Viewed 1221 times)
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    I forgot that Zuri physically interfered in the combat, and know nothing of comics past 1991, so can’t rely on source material.

    I take it we are to believe that any interference in the ritual combat is punishable by death by Wakandan Law. Not hard to grasp, especially for a fan of the Original Star Trek series episode where Spock fought in Vulcan ritual combat, strangely similar to that of Wakanda.

They may not have put Zuri to death. But you know someone could have kept him in prison for a bit or politely told him to just sit his ass down.

While I think the sanctity of the combat is important I think they also believe in the sanctity of life. Wakandans probably don't go around executing people unless they're mass murderers (and maybe not even then).

I think Zuri broke the rules but I don't think they would execute him for it.

    If so, Zuri brought about his death regardless of his sacrificial offer: suicide by guilt, painted better by a futile plea to Killmonger’s humanity. Further, I assume Zuri as combat administrator was the ultimate authority to instruct the Dora Milage to kill anyone else interfering in the combat if he was unable to do so himself. Thus they watched, no doubt without precedence, as their job was performed for them, albeit by Killmonger, himself a combatant.

    Then yes, he continued his right to slay T’Challa, and apparently did. Yet not even a question at any time that all was proceeding accordingly?

    I guess I now find this less a plot hole than a lapse in writing. At such unusual breakdown in combat steeped in tradition, a momentary readiness of the Dora Milage to act, not to mention more of an outcry from the Tribal leaders and T’Challa’s Family, was missing IMO. I would have preferred this then followed by a command from Killmonger for them to step back, voicing a knowledge of Wakandan Law, that lets us know without doubt that Zuri must die for his crime, and the Dora Milage would be sacrilegious to interfere.

    This would have made it a little more believable to me than the total passivity of all authorities during the chaos.

    But maybe I need to see the movie a third time, I dunno.

Well, if Zuri DIDN’T commit a crime punishable by death, then that’s where it breaks down for me. The Dora Milage in all authority should have stepped in to at least pause the combat while Killmonger’s ‘murder’ of Zuri was debated seriously,

The only other believable scenario to me is that T’Challa wasn’t very well-liked, almost hated even, by most Wakandans. Which would certainly help explain W’Kabi’s actions in the movie, not to mention M’Baku’s challenge.

Either way, the movie was a little too weak in establishing the motivations behind the actions or non-actions IMO.

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