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Reverend Meteor

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Subj: Re: Random thoughts about the film
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 at 03:34:34 pm CDT (Viewed 1101 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Random thoughts about the film
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 at 09:03:35 am CST (Viewed 1233 times)


    How to put me MCU Ross seems like the embodiment of what black people don't like about white people in the government.

    In the comics you couldn't help but to like Ross. He was an idiot and he was ineffectual. In the movies he's the smug white government agent.

I really need to watch the film again. I don't remember Ross being smug. Actually, as it's a word I don't use, I had to google "smug" to check the definition. You think he demonstrated excessive pride?

I wasn't a fan of the character in the comics. I never understood why Priest insisted on retaining him. Ross pretty much ruined the book for me, to the point where I didn't regularly follow it. I recently bought the collection of all Priest Panther issues (to give the comic another chance to grab me) and had to stop reading because Ross was so annoying and so prominent. Does his prominence lessen as the series progresses? I hope so. I really want to continue reading the collection as so many of us hold it in such high esteem but man - the first six issues were almost physically painful for me.

    I've read online a lot of black fans didn't like the Ross character in the movie. Part of that might just be because he's not black. But another part of me thinks if he was portrayed like he was in the comics (as the comic relief) he would have been more likeable.

I assume Ross was in the film as a nod to the Priest run, which is deemed so classic. (The Dora Milaje were of course another nod, and them I loved, both in the movie and in the comic.) So we who have read the comic (even if only intermittently as in my case) are unbaffled by Ross's presence in the film. But I wonder about the millions of moviegoers who have never read a Black Panther comic. Wouldn't they be baffled by this character? Back when I was reading the comic, I was baffled by him. I wanted him gone, frankly, and not just because I didn't like him. I wanted him gone because he was white. I wanted to relax into this really cool African experience, all foreign, tribal and warlike with ancient traditions, philosophies, and mysticism that fascinated me - and boom! Ross. Always Ross. Forcing me back into the non-foreign, non-tribal, non-warlike, non-ancient. Just thinking about it bugs me even now.

The movie Ross was a different animal for me. This was partly because I knew his presence in the film was a nod to the comic - a fact which paradoxically pleased me even though the comic itself didn't please me precisely because of Ross. The movie Ross was also symbolic of the benefits of allowing a little of the outside world into Wakanda. Every nation is enriched by allowing some foreign elements to find a place within it. Wakanda was enriched by allowing Ross to find a place within it. He did useful things. As such, he embodied an important philosophical message.

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