Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
He was loved.

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Would Be Watcher

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Daveym

Subj: In part yes...
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 at 11:25:07 am EST
Reply Subj: Re: Before I continue, do you understand what my point is? NT
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 at 07:35:51 am EST

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You're trying to impress the idea that these characters are not the same as they were 'back then'.

I disagree, when Marvel created these characters there was an understandable fine-tuning period where they dropped aspects (Thor controlling the elements without the hammer) or added new ones - the Thing & Torch evolving. Some of this was more artistic than creative, such as the Hulk going from Gray to green overnight but for the vast majority of their history they have been knowable and consistent with change occurring naturally and often only temporarily. That's the point that interests me.

Over the years (40 odd of them) their universe naturally evolved, new ideas were introduced but the Avengers were still 'Earths Mightiest' and Spiderman still struggled to keep his life together.
Kung Fu & Horror made their mark in the 70s while the late 80s & 90s were dark & gritty. Iron Man has moved on from 'Transistors' but it's still armour he wears with broadly the same abilities forming the core of his character.

Feel Free to try shooting, I'm ready \:\-\*

> You're trying to impress the idea that these characters are not the same as they were 'back then'.
>

But my goal is not to show they are not the same but that an old scan might not reflect a reality for today. Hulk and Thor and others are still themselve true, but the context and the capabilities of some characters are not the same as they were for any number of reasons. Thats why some scan seriously dating might not be representative of today's reality. The old myth of the twilight sword destroying the universe might have been more literal in the 1960's but today it might only apply to asgard. I seriously doubt galactus and eternity might suffer from that sword...

> I disagree, when Marvel created these characters there was an understandable fine-tuning period where they dropped aspects (Thor controlling the elements without the hammer) or added new ones - the Thing & Torch evolving. Some of this was more artistic than creative, such as the Hulk going from Gray to green overnight but for the vast majority of their history they have been knowable and consistent with change occurring naturally and often only temporarily. That's the point that interests me.
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And ? yes hulk still has super strenght and all I don't debate this. But can he still do the same feat he could 40 years back as some scans shows us? Thats my point. Thor racing hermes in an old scan but having is butt ended to him in speed by so many others in recent years show that changes have occur in the way some characters are presented.

> Over the years (40 odd of them) their universe naturally evolved, new ideas were introduced but the Avengers were still 'Earths Mightiest' and Spiderman still struggled to keep his life together.
> Kung Fu & Horror made their mark in the 70s while the late 80s & 90s were dark & gritty. Iron Man has moved on from 'Transistors' but it's still armour he wears with broadly the same abilities forming the core of his character.
>
> Feel Free to try shooting, I'm ready \:\-\*

You are side stepping the issue so I'll shoot really straight for you. Answer CLEARLY this question: Do you think all scans of old have the same fact value that the new one does?





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