Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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JesusFan

Subj: Re: Does sheer Skill & Ability not Count Though?
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 at 05:37:52 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: Does sheer Skill & Ability not Count Though?
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 at 01:12:59 pm EST

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> You seem to fail to understand every confrontation Diana and Kal have had.
The point could be made the other one though... But I digress...
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> Diana has never once attempted to put Kal down. In every fight they have had she was trying to save him whereas this Kryptonian female was trying to DEFEAT him. Theres a massive difference.

She has been overpowered by Supes every time that they have fought, said that she KNOWS that she cannot take him in a "real" fight, has had broken bonesm shown the worse for wear, and at her BEST, with much superior fighting skills, experience, and magical weapons, is able to only stalement him?
Guess that is the major difference.. Diana at her best is able to merely stalemate Supes, when he is mind controlled/altered, and not in his "right frame of mind, " or lese not fighting in earnest?
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> Why would Diana inflict unnecessary harm on Kal? Why would she use pressure points to make him go out of control (and possibly hurt himself OR others)?
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> It doesnt make sense.

Both times he was already "out of control", so why wouldn't she seek to stop the fight, but that is based upon an assumption that she actually could?
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> As you noted prior, Diana has used pressure point attacks before. Shes a martial artist. Should she be able to do that? Yes, of course. Would she? Of course not.

Supes has trained with Bats, been fighting against other super powerful beings for awhile, had to survive depowered on war world, facing down fighting mad Mongul, and defeating him..
He has shown that his fighting skills not best in the DCU, butr better than just a"normal" level, and with his now enhanced mind in play, perhaps he will get to being a Master skill levels for fighting?
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> > Fair enough but Martial arts is martial arts.
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> > I'm more interested though in just how dangerous such an opponent would be for Superman - it's basically what Wonder Woman is made up to be right?
> > If you gave Shang Chi that sort of power would you agree he'd demolish Superman and if so why isn't WW capable of that sort of clear advantage?
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> > Or to be blunt - is she overrated in that regard? >:-|


> She has been overpowered by Supes every time that they have fought, said that she KNOWS that she cannot take him in a "real" fight, has had broken bonesm shown the worse for wear, and at her BEST, with much superior fighting skills, experience, and magical weapons, is able to only stalement him?

You forget that Diana broke Kals bones.

You forget everytime Kal tried to put Diana down he COULDNT.

You forget Diana didnt STALEMATE Kal, she defeated him, TWICE.

> Both times he was already "out of control", so why wouldn't she seek to stop the fight, but that is based upon an assumption that she actually could?

Out of control = FULLY POWERED ALL OUT Superman using ALL OF HIS POWERS at their MAX to put Diana down - and FAILED!!!!

> Supes has trained with Bats, been fighting against other super powerful beings for awhile, had to survive depowered on war world, facing down fighting mad Mongul, and defeating him..

And Superman is *still* not a martial artist. Oh well.


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> > > Fair enough but Martial arts is martial arts.
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> > > I'm more interested though in just how dangerous such an opponent would be for Superman - it's basically what Wonder Woman is made up to be right?
> > > If you gave Shang Chi that sort of power would you agree he'd demolish Superman and if so why isn't WW capable of that sort of clear advantage?
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> > > Or to be blunt - is she overrated in that regard? >:-|


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