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The Pumpkinhead

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MB

Subj: I'm with you-Vader was pretty much toying with Luke NT
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 08:39:15 pm EST
Reply Subj: Luke vs. Darth Vader (End of Episode VI)
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 08:06:50 pm EST

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My friend, in his ignorance, insists that Luke Skywalked had superceded Vader in power by the end of the final movie. I, of course, laughed at him and explained that Vader wasn't really trying to beat Luke, and if he was, it would have been a repeat of their fight in Cloud City.

My friend, in his mental insanity, says that in the time between V and VI, Luke grew stronger, and beat Vader in a fair fight, or at the very least, could have if he'd wanted to. He points to Luke taking Vader's hand as proof. I pointed out that Vader spent half the fight goading him and blocking, and didn't use any of his powers in the fight like he did in cloud city.

Alas, I see no way to tell for certain, so I thought I'd see what the majority of the board thought.

Note: The important point, however, is that all arguments have to be made using episodes IV-VI preferably, I-III if necessary, and not any outside material (novels).

Anyone have an opinion? There's some videos of the fights on youtube if you need a refresher.

> My friend, in his ignorance, insists that Luke Skywalked had superceded Vader in power by the end of the final movie. I, of course, laughed at him and explained that Vader wasn't really trying to beat Luke, and if he was, it would have been a repeat of their fight in Cloud City.
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> My friend, in his mental insanity, says that in the time between V and VI, Luke grew stronger, and beat Vader in a fair fight, or at the very least, could have if he'd wanted to. He points to Luke taking Vader's hand as proof. I pointed out that Vader spent half the fight goading him and blocking, and didn't use any of his powers in the fight like he did in cloud city.
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> Alas, I see no way to tell for certain, so I thought I'd see what the majority of the board thought.
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> Note: The important point, however, is that all arguments have to be made using episodes IV-VI preferably, I-III if necessary, and not any outside material (novels).
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> Anyone have an opinion? There's some videos of the fights on youtube if you need a refresher.