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Maestro

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dave

Subj: Re: Well...
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 01:15:59 pm EST
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 12:04:35 am EST

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> Quick Silver's speed is measured in machs. Flash's speed goes up to light. When in the Speed force Flash also sees things in slow motion so theoretically he would see Spidey sloooowly raising his arm and either choose to duck under it or slam into it at full speed thereby breaking Peter's arm. We all know however that writers almost always have to hobble the Flash in some way when he goes up against non-speedsters to make the battle competitive. So yeah, Spidey would win the fight... possibly in the way your Scan describes.

First of all, Spidey is written much faster than he was in those days. Regardless, saying Flash fights at light speed is retarded. He would destroy everything around him even if it were possible to move that fast. Second, he never fights at this speed. A max running speed isn't the same as fighting speed. Otherwise, his lame villains would never be able to beat him.

That said, I think Flash should take it. He'd have better luck just grabbing baseball bat then to try hitting a guy much more durable than him. I think that Spidey's reflexes and spidey sense can let him hang with a lot of speedsters, but Flash is the king speedster.

> > Quick Silver's speed is measured in machs. Flash's speed goes up to light. When in the Speed force Flash also sees things in slow motion so theoretically he would see Spidey sloooowly raising his arm and either choose to duck under it or slam into it at full speed thereby breaking Peter's arm. We all know however that writers almost always have to hobble the Flash in some way when he goes up against non-speedsters to make the battle competitive. So yeah, Spidey would win the fight... possibly in the way your Scan describes.
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> First of all, Spidey is written much faster than he was in those days. Regardless, saying Flash fights at light speed is retarded. He would destroy everything around him even if it were possible to move that fast. Second, he never fights at this speed. A max running speed isn't the same as fighting speed. Otherwise, his lame villains would never be able to beat him.
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First off, I don't care how fast Spidey is written. He has no chance against someone who can move faster than thought. It is the Writer who usually makes Flash do dumb things in order to allow himself to be caught.

Second, the Speed force that surrounds Wally allows him to move at very high speeds (approaching light) without destroying everything around him. It somehow suspends the laws of physics (even for comics) allowing Flash to go from near light speed to being able to stop on a dime.

Third, I never said he fights at light speed... I was just comparing top speeds between him and Quick Silver. That said, when Wally throws something like 100,000 punches a second (which we have seen him do all the time) then his hand movements must be fairly close to light speed.

Fourth, the reason why lame Villains can beat him is (as I mentioned in the post) because the majority of Writers have great difficulty making a fight competitive between Super speedsters and non-speedsters. Hence the reason why Wally usually finds the dumbest ways to lose.

> That said, I think Flash should take it. He'd have better luck just grabbing baseball bat then to try hitting a guy much more durable than him. I think that Spidey's reflexes and spidey sense can let him hang with a lot of speedsters, but Flash is the king speedster.

Flash has pounded on Superboy Prime and White Martians in the past without hurting his fists. When in the Speed force Flash becomes very durable allowing him to break Granite with his bare hands when moving at super speed. He should be able to KO Spidey with a couple of punches but no Writer would generally allow that... the whole "competitive" thing again.