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rukkdeez

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DS

Subj: Re: Agreed
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 02:16:15 pm EST
Reply Subj: gods in comics
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 10:25:28 am EST

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> By all accounts no non-deity in either comicbook universe should be able to match a deity in strength. But again, this is a comicbook.

Key point - "deity" does not mean in Marvel what it means in reality!

In the Marvel universe "gods" are merely extra-dimensional aliens that have been worshipped in the past. There is no suggestion that the universe was created a la Norse or Greek mythology - the Marvel universe sticks reasonably (this is debatable) close to a simplified version of conventional scientific wisdom.

Therefore there is no reason whatsoever that Thor and say Superman, Wonderman, the Hulk, the Silver Surfer or any other powerful comic-book hero shouldn't be similar in strength because one a "god" and another a mere "alien" or mere "mortal" this makes no sense whatsoever. Consider what the Norse would have thought if superman or wonderman had shown up, I suspect they would quickly have been incorporated into the mythos as "gods". The word "god" is just that, a word with several logical consequences springing from it in the Marvel universe such as "immortality" and "worship" and some forms of superhuman power. Some "gods" in Marvel are fairly weak, others (Odin, Zeus) very powerful.

For me (and I think most readers of this board) at least it isn't self-evident that just because a comic book character is based on a mythological character they must be superior to a comic-book character who is not!

> > By all accounts no non-deity in either comicbook universe should be able to match a deity in strength. But again, this is a comicbook.

Why is this? The average "god" has a strength level of 25-25 tons. Beings like Thor, Hercules, Odin, Zeus, Pluto are the exceptions, not the rule when it comes to "deities" in comics.
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> Key point - "deity" does not mean in Marvel what it means in reality!
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> In the Marvel universe "gods" are merely extra-dimensional aliens that have been worshipped in the past. There is no suggestion that the universe was created a la Norse or Greek mythology - the Marvel universe sticks reasonably (this is debatable) close to a simplified version of conventional scientific wisdom.
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> Therefore there is no reason whatsoever that Thor and say Superman, Wonderman, the Hulk, the Silver Surfer or any other powerful comic-book hero shouldn't be similar in strength because one a "god" and another a mere "alien" or mere "mortal" this makes no sense whatsoever. Consider what the Norse would have thought if superman or wonderman had shown up, I suspect they would quickly have been incorporated into the mythos as "gods". The word "god" is just that, a word with several logical consequences springing from it in the Marvel universe such as "immortality" and "worship" and some forms of superhuman power. Some "gods" in Marvel are fairly weak, others (Odin, Zeus) very powerful.
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> For me (and I think most readers of this board) at least it isn't self-evident that just because a comic book character is based on a mythological character they must be superior to a comic-book character who is not!


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