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rukkdeez

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Would Be Watcher

Subj: Re: canon or not...
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 02:44:41 pm EST
Reply Subj: Re: canon or not...
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 11:11:24 pm EST

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> > > > > > > Could the current Hulk be able to defeat the Mongul of the PC era of the DCU, one who actually managed to defeat PC Supes after epic battle, yay or nay?
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> > > > > > Lord Majestros:
> > > > > > Pre-Crisis Supes said in no uncertain terms that Mongul took everything he had and Mongul STILL got the better of him.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well... Modern Supes was able to KO the Hulk, who nearly took everything Supes had...
> > > > > So if Modern Supes is able to KO Hulk, and if PC Supes could not KO Mongul, than ?
> > > >
> > > > That was in a fan voted match. Not the best example to use, you will agree.
> > >
> > > Thats just it! Certain people here DON'T agree! This is why despite the fact that EVERYONE knows that was a fan voted fight (especially the people who keep referring and using this fight as a basis for their arguments)people STILL act as though this battle was canon. What I'd like to know is....WHY?
> >
> > a well written story with the same match up would and should have the same result. I'm sorry but no amount of talking is going to make me beleive that hulk can win unless a plot device or a jobbing appears.
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> So the story would be "well written" ONLY if Supes is victorious. And if the Hulk happened to win, it just HAS to be a job or plot device eh? And this is why? Because YOU wouldn't believe it otherwise. Anything other than a Superman victory would constitute a poorly written story. According to YOU. I see.

explain me how you can see hulk winning? written well = If both use all they have correctly. Hulk wont lay a finger on supes.

> > > > > > > > Could the current Hulk be able to defeat the Mongul of the PC era of the DCU, one who actually managed to defeat PC Supes after epic battle, yay or nay?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lord Majestros:
> > > > > > > Pre-Crisis Supes said in no uncertain terms that Mongul took everything he had and Mongul STILL got the better of him.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well... Modern Supes was able to KO the Hulk, who nearly took everything Supes had...
> > > > > > So if Modern Supes is able to KO Hulk, and if PC Supes could not KO Mongul, than ?
> > > > >
> > > > > That was in a fan voted match. Not the best example to use, you will agree.
> > > >
> > > > Thats just it! Certain people here DON'T agree! This is why despite the fact that EVERYONE knows that was a fan voted fight (especially the people who keep referring and using this fight as a basis for their arguments)people STILL act as though this battle was canon. What I'd like to know is....WHY?
> > >
> > > a well written story with the same match up would and should have the same result. I'm sorry but no amount of talking is going to make me beleive that hulk can win unless a plot device or a jobbing appears.
> >
> > So the story would be "well written" ONLY if Supes is victorious. And if the Hulk happened to win, it just HAS to be a job or plot device eh? And this is why? Because YOU wouldn't believe it otherwise. Anything other than a Superman victory would constitute a poorly written story. According to YOU. I see.
>
> explain me how you can see hulk winning? written well = If both use all they have correctly. Hulk wont lay a finger on supes.

You could say that against nearly every single person Superman fights. You and everyone else who continues to use the "speed blitz", or "superspeed" thing should really stop doing that. Superman doesn't fight that way and just because certain of you want him to DOES NOT mean that when he doesn't, it's a poorly written story.

Quite frankly, there ARE no "poorly written" or "well written" stories. It's all a matter of point of view. You say a well written story constitutes Superman speed jackin' Hulk or anybody else for that matter, but SOMEONE else could say a well written story is that Superman didn't realize how tough the Hulk was and when he finally did give Hulk his due, it was too late! Hulk was now too impervious to harm(a legitimate aspect of his power)for ANYTHING Supes could do to affect him. Now YOU may find that to be bullcrap, but the next fan(who has every right to believe what he/she wants to believe same as you)may think this is the best written story in the history of literature. Oh and trying to use the "rabid fan" excuse is weak, because the same could be said in the other direction.

And I just realized it but I did indeed give you an "instance" where Hulk could beat Superman...."if written correctly".


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