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Subj: the same can be said about most top end beings...
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 08:11:04 am EDT
Reply Subj: Re: nope...
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 at 08:06:37 am EDT
> > > > he's WAY above Terrax, Absorbing Man, etc, who are at least in Superman's ballpark. The Ultron showing throws SOME question as to Sentry's full power level, but he's been consistently above herald and near herald levellers, ESPECIALLY considering showings by the Void as well.
> > > > Thing is though about Supes and Sentry...
> > > DC has ALWAYS set up Supes as being the "go to " Guy when the chips are down... Darkseid threatening earth/Imperiex/Maggeddon etc...
> > > And he is shown to be able to "handle" DD, darkseid, Brainiac etc, more so than any other DC hero...
> > DD, Darkseid, etc are all in the Thor ballpark as well. Sorry, but Thor has ALSO risen to the occasion against these supposed 'uber' threats, like a Celestial, Galactus, etc. It doesn't change that he operates on a given level that is consistent with Superman's. I'm not saying Superman or Thor couldn't be a substantial underdog and pull a huge upset, but the bottom line is that Sentry is greater.
> This seems to prove my point though concerning Supes and Thor...
> Believe that BOTH of them are so used to fighting against "lesser" beings on Earth, hanging out among Humans so much...
> That both of them have placed big time mental restraints upon use of their Full power levels, in order not to cause someone to be killed off, and also not to "show" up their fellow JLA/Avengers members...
> Say Again, either Supes/Thor going all out would be a suitable match for the Sentry, as I do not see Sentry as being in Odin ball park, and hard pressed to see him even able to defeat Thanos in a real fight..
And yet, why would Thor and the others hold back so much against Terrax? I can see the arguement with most of the others, but NOT to so casually dismiss Terrax. Sorry, I don't see Thor, Superman, Surfer, or anyone else in that ballpark as being able to do that.
> > > Agree with you that it looks like Sentry operates at higher levels on a "normal" fashion, but still hold that when he needs to, DC always allows Supes to "dial up to 11" to get the job done...
> > If you factor in the Void showings, Sentry operates on a MUCH higher scale than either, and Supes, dialed up to 11 STILL is the underdog.
> Have to factor in Supes as a "Cosmic" being though on OWAW, so still think both are about the same at highest showings...
> > > So would say Sentry on average looks>Supes, but that whe
> > n Supes is in that "got to win" mode, he should be able to take out Sentry, especially if Marvel still has Robert with mental hang ups and lack of confidence thing going on!
> > That might allow Supes, Thor, etc to pull the upset, true. Its still an upset, however.
> Think that Marvel is right now rethinking having the "Marvel Superman" operating at those levels, and see coming either a depowering for Sentry, Hulk/Thor boosting up to match him, or else Sentry will be leaving the Earth, rarely to be seen heard from again!
> > > > > Based upon the latest showings for both "Men of Steel"...
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it Still the majority consensus that Sentry defeats Supes straight up, or is the Golden Boy losing his shine to some degree, and being seen as being closer to Supes than previously thought?