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ARCHNEMESIS

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Lord Majestros

Subj: Well, in fairness...
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 11:20:56 am EDT
Reply Subj: Agreed...
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 10:22:25 pm EST

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> > > In comics, Wolvie is an icon badass as exemplified by the "snikt" of his famous adamantium claws. As such, they take on an heir of holy crap awesomeness and unstoppability.
> > >
> > > But really. . .imagine right now that three steel blades popped out of your hands. What could you really do with that? You couldn't even chop thru the desk you're sitting at. Sure it would make you damn near unbeatable against any human in a one-on-one situation, but what about anything unconventional? You don't have the strength to chop thru your desk, let alone iron or any type of metal.
> > >
> > > Anywho, the claws are a bit like the light sabre. Mythic and awesome, but on close inspection not really effective. Sure a light sabre may be better than a blaster because it deflects those beams, but it wouldn't be better than a gun shooting bullets that aren't going to be seen or deflected.
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> > Lord Majestros:
> > Logan doesn't have the strength to cut most of the stuff he cuts. In truth, his claws are really portrayed like they have molecular disruption properties or like they have mystical properties like the Ebony Blade.
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> The Ebony Blade wasn't able to cut through them. This is really strange given that they are supposed to be a normal, though amazing, metal alloy. There was no reason he should not have been able to cut them.

Lord Majestros:
Being magic, the Ebony Blade SHOULD have cut right through Logan's claws. However, my point with the Blade is that if Wolverine's claws had magical properties like the Blade, him cutting a lot of the stuff he cuts would make more sense because him not actually being strong enough would be compensated for by the magic.

> > > > In comics, Wolvie is an icon badass as exemplified by the "snikt" of his famous adamantium claws. As such, they take on an heir of holy crap awesomeness and unstoppability.
> > > >
> > > > But really. . .imagine right now that three steel blades popped out of your hands. What could you really do with that? You couldn't even chop thru the desk you're sitting at. Sure it would make you damn near unbeatable against any human in a one-on-one situation, but what about anything unconventional? You don't have the strength to chop thru your desk, let alone iron or any type of metal.
> > > >
> > > > Anywho, the claws are a bit like the light sabre. Mythic and awesome, but on close inspection not really effective. Sure a light sabre may be better than a blaster because it deflects those beams, but it wouldn't be better than a gun shooting bullets that aren't going to be seen or deflected.
> > >
> > > Lord Majestros:
> > > Logan doesn't have the strength to cut most of the stuff he cuts. In truth, his claws are really portrayed like they have molecular disruption properties or like they have mystical properties like the Ebony Blade.
> >
> > The Ebony Blade wasn't able to cut through them. This is really strange given that they are supposed to be a normal, though amazing, metal alloy. There was no reason he should not have been able to cut them.
>
> Lord Majestros:
> Being magic, the Ebony Blade SHOULD have cut right through Logan's claws. However, my point with the Blade is that if Wolverine's claws had magical properties like the Blade, him cutting a lot of the stuff he cuts would make more sense because him not actually being strong enough would be compensated for by the magic.

Magic has been countered by science before. Bres was rendered helpless by ion particles which "countered his earth-based magic". Kurse has a kind of allergy to metals. Doom has merged technology and magic so tat his armor is able to call spells for him. So there is some interactivity between science and magic. It's entirely reasonable that the molecular bonds in Adamantium are so strong that it counters magical attempts to break them. After all, as Reed and Tony have speculated in the past, magic is just a form of science they don't understand, but still science nonetheless.


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